Robert Jordan Died.

[Xavier Lang]

http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Wheel-Of-Time-Author-Robert-Jordan-Dies-6375.html

It appears that the Wheel of Time will never be finished.

[Limper]

http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Wheel-Of-Time-Author-Robert-Jordan-Dies-6375.html

It appears that the Wheel of Time will never be finished.

I'm glad I already gave up on the series otherwise this would have pissed me off.

[Kwalish Kid]

"To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."

[EhtoZed]

Wow. I had no idea. People joked about him dying before finishing, but...

Geez. That just sucks all around.

[PWD]

Figures.

[Hatter]

I knew he'd never finish those books. Still sad, the disease that killed him is really nasty.

[Limper]

I knew he'd never finish those books. Still sad, the disease that killed him is really nasty.


I think thats an unfair assessment of the disease it did finally get the damn series to end.

[Janos]

While I wasn't a big fan of him or his writing, I morn his passing as a big name in the fantasy field.

That said, karma really did kill the guy. All the jokes, all the dragging of the story to make it stretch, millions of words... It really could only end with him dying prematurely and never finishing the series. That was the only outcome possible.

[Harry]

Haven't read "The Wheel of Time", and I don't plan to, but that's still sad. Last night, I was reading the preface to one of the Dark Tower books, after having read three of them I figured it was time, and saw where one of King's biggest concerns was his own mortality, that he would pass from this world leaving the story unfinished. That was his main motivation in wrapping up the series, and he wasn't at death's door. I'd be rather surprised if Jordan did not leave enough material lying around for Christopher Tolkein to come along and put that puppy to bed for his estate.

[Limper]

Haven't read "The Wheel of Time", and I don't plan to, but that's still sad. Last night, I was reading the preface to one of the Dark Tower books, after having read three of them I figured it was time, and saw where one of King's biggest concerns was his own mortality, that he would pass from this world leaving the story unfinished. That was his main motivation in wrapping up the series, and he wasn't at death's door. I'd be rather surprised if Jordan did not leave enough material lying around for Christopher Tolkein to come along and put that puppy to bed for his estate.

I'm hoping they get Brian Herbert to finish it.

[PWD]

How long until Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert revive his unfinished manuscript?

Edit: Dammit, Jinx!

[TiQuinn]

I'll bet now if George R.R. Martin gets the sniffles, there'll be a legion of geeks standing outside his house offering him chicken soup.

[doc]

How long until Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert revive his unfinished manuscript?

Edit: Dammit, Jinx!

Why are you daming Jinxie ? Never got into the series, but that was a rough way to go.

[Pigs in Space]

Wow, I was considering starting the series one day too...

[Sobek]

Wow, I was considering starting the series one day too...

The first book is acceptable as a stand-alone novel. The first three work really well together. After that, all the characters change personalities and it becomes a stew.

Read the first book. Never look back.

[Freedom Canadian]

I knew it, goddammit !

I swear, I'm gonna haunt his ghost until the end of time.

[shabois]

I'll bet now if George R.R. Martin gets the sniffles, there'll be a legion of geeks standing outside his house offering him chicken soup.

Damn Right! This guy is never going to finish his series!!!:D

From what I read, Jordan was working on his 12th book in the serious, which he was considering to be the last. It will be interesting to see if it ever gets published. They might just do what they have done with Ludlum and the Bourne series and just have someone else keep pumping out books after the author dies...

[GreyOne]

Man, I'm sorry to hear that.

I gave up after Book 8 (I think).

Hopefully he articulated somewhere what he was planning for the end of the series. Otherwise, it's like some giant cosmic joke.

[Freedom Canadian]

I'll bet now if George R.R. Martin gets the sniffles, there'll be a legion of geeks standing outside his house offering him chicken soup.

Well, there's no way Martin finishes his series. He's already ancient and he takes 6 years to write a novel, a number which keeps increasing with each book (because he's old). He still has 4 books to publish. You do the math.

[GreyOne]

Steven Erikson people. Steven Erikson. God among writers.

[King Vyper]

It is my understanding that Jordan's wife will finish the last book.

[Limper]

It is my understanding that Jordan's wife will finish the last book.

To bad she was the editor that allowed him to ramble on endlessly.

[Kwalish Kid]

To bad she was the editor that allowed him to ramble on endlessly.
If I were a woman, I would cross my arms under my breasts and sniff.

[Janos]

If I were a woman, I would cross my arms under my breasts and sniff.

While showing your petticoats indecently and tugging on your braid?

[PWD]

While showing your petticoats indecently and tugging on your braid?

I'm tapping my foot in your general direction right now.

[PWD]

Steven Erikson people. Steven Erikson. God among writers.

We're looking to improve on Jordan, not find another source of plentiful toiletpaper, and certainly not a source that comes with the shit already built-in.

[doc]

I'm tapping my foot in your general direction right now.

And don't even TRY to get frisky !!

[Freedom Canadian]

Steven Erikson people. Steven Erikson. God among writers.

Why are all these writers old ? :confused:

[Merganser]

Why are all these writers old ? :confused:

They were born a long time ago.

[GreyOne]

Steven Erikson is young. At 48 he's half the age of the ladies that PWD masturbates to. He's also written more books than PWD has read, not counting Archie and Jughead.

[Ancalagon]

I think one thing I would like to say here is... FINISH YOUR FUCKING STORIES AUTHORS.

I gave up on Jordan, I gave up on Goodkind, and I may give up on Erikson.

[Freedom Canadian]

I gave up on Jordan, I gave up on Goodkind, and I may give up on Erikson.

Erikson's series will be done in 3 years or so. Maybe before Martin releases his next book.

You should try Jacqueline Carey, Anc. ;)

[GreyOne]

I think one thing I would like to say here is... FINISH YOUR FUCKING STORIES AUTHORS.

I gave up on Jordan, I gave up on Goodkind, and I may give up on Erikson.

Erikson's been totally consistent and clockwork (just like PWD at an all you can eat bean burrito bar) and every book tells a story unto itself (more or less).

[Dark Jezter]

I think one thing I would like to say here is... FINISH YOUR FUCKING STORIES AUTHORS.

I gave up on Jordan, I gave up on Goodkind, and I may give up on Erikson.
Just so you know, the new Terry Goodkind novel coming out this November is the final book in the Sword of Truth series. So apparantly he does know how to finish a story.

[EhtoZed]

Just so you know, the new Terry Goodkind novel coming out this November is the final book in the Sword of Truth series. So apparantly he does know how to finish a story.
He just doesn't know how to tell one.

[Ergeheilalt]

I liked Goodkind's writing. Then I found out he was a douche.

[PWD]

Erikson's been totally consistent and clockwork (just like PWD at an all you can eat bean burrito bar)

Just like my ass end, anyhow.

[GreyOne]

Just like my ass end, anyhow.

Where the brains are stored.

[Ancalagon]

Erikson's series will be done in 3 years or so. Maybe before Martin releases his next book.

You should try Jacqueline Carey, Anc. ;)

Good! He has been pretty good, and if he brings the story to a satisfying end, he will have achieved a great, great series.

re second part: who?

Just so you know, the new Terry Goodkind novel coming out this November is the final book in the Sword of Truth series. So apparantly he does know how to finish a story.

Yes, but not before I lost interest.

[Freedom Canadian]

re second part: who?


Tell me next time you visit Montreal. I'll lend you the books.

[Snatch]

Colour me unsurprised at this event. And fortunate not to have started the series.

[Kastil]

You know, I've really tried to think of something nice to say but I can't. I don't remember what book it was that I stopped reading his drivel but the book is upstairs with the bookmark in it still. I have forbidden my son to read them. Why? Because he likes reading and I really don't want him to lose interest.

I mean, I'm all for an author to mention something BRIEFLY that happened in a previous book to jog one's memory but to make pages upon pages of it? Good grief! I also don't need to know every stinking detail of the character's lives. If it's a detail not relevent to the plot, leave it the fuck out.

A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome could have written a more engaging plot. :grumpy:

[Sobek]

A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome could have written a more engaging plot. :grumpy:

So, you're a fan of "Song of Fire and Ice"?

[Kwalish Kid]

So, you're a fan of "Song of Fire and Ice"?

Awesome!

[Kastil]

So, you're a fan of "Song of Fire and Ice"?
I have never read it and I'm going to guess it was a good choice.

[TiQuinn]

You know, I've really tried to think of something nice to say but I can't. I don't remember what book it was that I stopped reading his drivel but the book is upstairs with the bookmark in it still. I have forbidden my son to read them. Why? Because he likes reading and I really don't want him to lose interest.

I mean, I'm all for an author to mention something BRIEFLY that happened in a previous book to jog one's memory but to make pages upon pages of it? Good grief! I also don't need to know every stinking detail of the character's lives. If it's a detail not relevent to the plot, leave it the fuck out.

A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome could have written a more engaging plot. :grumpy:

A lot of fantasy is like this for me. Honestly, I blame Tolkien and Lewis. Somewhere, it became a rule that any kind of fantasy of the sword and sorcery vein has to be a series or "cycle" of books, and it's a bunch of horseshit.

[PWD]

You know, I've really tried to think of something nice to say but I can't. I don't remember what book it was that I stopped reading his drivel but the book is upstairs with the bookmark in it still. I have forbidden my son to read them. Why? Because he likes reading and I really don't want him to lose interest.

I mean, I'm all for an author to mention something BRIEFLY that happened in a previous book to jog one's memory but to make pages upon pages of it? Good grief! I also don't need to know every stinking detail of the character's lives. If it's a detail not relevent to the plot, leave it the fuck out.

A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome could have written a more engaging plot. :grumpy:

If you feel that way about Jordan, keep your son right the fuck away from Erikson. That'll kill his love of reading, piss on it, light it on fire, feed it to pigs, harvest their resultant shit to fertilize a garden for hobos who will murder prostitutes for drug money under the influence of which they will molest babies while dropkicking midgets off of buildings.

[GreyOne]

If you feel that way about Jordan, keep your son right the fuck away from Erikson. That'll kill his love of reading, piss on it, light it on fire, feed it to pigs, harvest their resultant shit to fertilize a garden for hobos who will murder prostitutes for drug money under the influence of which they will molest babies while dropkicking midgets off of buildings.

Shit, reading that run-on sentence will put most people to sleep not to mention kill most editors dead. On the other hand, a good writer is Steven Erikson. Here's what the critics are saying:

PRAISE FOR
MALAZAN BOOK OF THE FALLEN SERIES

"Battle dominates the gripping third installment of Canadian Erikson's projected 10-volume series...for a giant fantasy series, this is tightly written, with no repetitious dialogue or exposition. Erikson ranks near the top of the
epic fantasy pantheon."
—Publishers Weekly *starred review* on Memories of Ice

"The author's vibrant world of soldiers and warlocks, noble families and assassin clans comes to life in this exceptionally well-told tale of grand schemes
and small lives."
—Library Journal on Deadhouse Gates

"Overdosed on Harry? Had it with hobbits? Steven Erikson's sweeping 10-volume series, The Malazan Book of the Fallen, might be just the fantasy epic that adult readers have been longing for . . . Erikson is a master of lost and forgotten epochs, a weaver of ancient epics on a scale that would approach absurdity if it wasn't so much fun."
— Salon.com

"I stand slack-jawed in awe of The Malazan Book of the Fallen. This masterwork of imagination may be the high water mark of epic fantasy—accomplished with none of the customary rifs on Tolkien. This marathon of ambition has a depth and breadth and sense of vast reaches of inimical time unlike anything else available today. The Black Company, Zelazny's Amber, Vance's Dying Earth, and other mighty drumbeats are but foreshadowings of this dark dragon's hoard."
— Glen Cook

"One of the best fantasy novels of the year."
—SF Site on Gardens of the Moon

"Rare is the writer who so fluidly combines a sense of mythic power and depth of world, with fully realized characters and thrilling action, but Steven Erikson manages it spectacularly. The books are reminiscent of Tolkien's scope, Zelazny's cleverness and wit, and Donaldson's brooding atmospherics; yet all combined with dazzling talent into a narrative flow that keeps the reader turning pages. Some writers open windows on worlds, Erikson opens worlds and makes them so real, so magical, you're not sure if you
can escape—and I don't want to."
—Michael A. Stackpole

"Such is the impact of the first book in Erikson's monumental Malazan saga, Gardens of the Moon, that the achievement of this sequel is doubly surprising. Not only is the vigour and sweep of the earlier book effortlessly captured, the complex plot is simultaneously deepened and accelerated, with a grasp of tempo that has the reader inexorably gripped . . . Roll on, book three!"
—The Good Book Guide

"Gripping, fast-moving, delightfully dark, with a masterful and unapologetic brutality reminiscent of George R. R. Martin. Steven Erikson brings a punchy, mesmerizing writing style into the genre of epic fantasy, making an indelible impression. Utterly engrossing."
—Elizabeth Haydon on Gardens of the Moon

"Enter Malazan and find a fully realized universe complete with history, mythology, sociology and thaumatology…intriguing, complex, thought-provoking and, for the intelligent(sorry PWD) reader, satisfying."
— Cinefantastique on Gardens of the Moon

"[A] gritty, realistic fantasy in the manner of Glen Cook's Dark Company series."
— Booklist on Gardens of the Moon

"Steven Erikson is an extraordinary writer. I read Gardens of the Moon with great pleasure. And now that I have read it, I would be hard pressed to decide what I enjoyed more: the richly and ominously magical world of Malaz and Genabackis; the large cast of sympathetically-rendered characters; or the way the story accumulates to a climax that hits like machinegun fire. My advice to anyone who might listen to me is, Treat yourself to Gardens of the Moon. And my entirely selfish advice to Steven Erikson is, write faster."
— Stephen R. Donaldson on Gardens of the Moon

"Complex, challenging…Erikson's strengths are his grown-up characters and his ability to create a world every bit as intricate and messy as our own."
— J. V. Jones on Gardens of the Moon

"An astounding debut . . . has the potential to become known as a
defining work in Fantasy."
— SF Site on Gardens of the Moon

"A brilliant book! Exciting, inventive, intelligent - frequently funny. A wonderful book to read and to recommend to others."
— David Drake on Gardens of the Moon

"The experience of reading Gardens of the Moon is akin to being plunged into a full-immersion course in a heretofore undiscovered realm. Erikson's world is richly envisioned, dense and gritty, rife with magic and filled with complex political and military intrigue."
— Jacqueline Carey

"I've never read a book series that so engrossed me, I had to kick PWD's wife out of bed. "
--GreyOne

[PWD]

You missed: I've never had so much masturbatory drow fantasizing since Drizz't! And those loaded glances, shit they're better than tugged braids and stamped feet any day!

[Thoth-Amon]

Malazan books of the Fallen is a damned good series. In comparison WoT reads like it was written by a retarded 10 year old child.

[Kastil]

Malazan books of the Fallen is a damned good series. In comparison WoT reads like it was written by a retarded 10 year old child.No, no, NO!!!! A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome!! Get it right, you Ottawa Oompa Loompa! :tongue:

[Janos]

— J. V. Jones on Gardens of the Moon
— David Drake on Gardens of the Moon
— Jacqueline Carey
— GreyOne

Let's be honest. Reviews by terrible hack writers who wouldn't know a good novel if it bit them in the ass don't really count as positive publicity. Not to mention the fact that every book can drum up fans. I've seen a lot of bad novels with good reviews. Any book by David Drake for example tends to have a couple of big name authors giving him positive comments, and he's a joke.

[Limper]

Malazan books of the Fallen is a damned good series. In comparison WoT reads like it was written by a retarded 10 year old child.

I'll second that. Erikson and Martin are FAR better than Jordan was.

[Schizm]

Let's be honest. Reviews by terrible hack writers who wouldn't know a good novel if it bit them in the ass don't really count as positive publicity. Not to mention the fact that every book can drum up fans. I've seen a lot of bad novels with good reviews. Any book by David Drake for example tends to have a couple of big name authors giving him positive comments, and he's a joke.

It's called a "blurb."

Publishing companies fucking PAY writers to give blurbs for new novels.

[EhtoZed]

Malazan books of the Fallen is a damned good series. In comparison WoT reads like it was written by a retarded 10 year old child.
Or a dying old man?

[Limper]

Or a dying old man?


He wasn't dying for the first 10 books... and he wasn't old for the first 7 or so.

[Janos]

It's called a "blurb."

Publishing companies fucking PAY writers to give blurbs for new novels.

I didn't know it had a specific term. I stand by the rest of it though, especially if it is paid for advertising.

[PWD]

I didn't know it had a specific term. I stand by the rest of it though, especially if it is paid for advertising.

Who says what in blurbs is about as important as which political party Tom Cruise is supporting.

In much the same way it can be occasionally amusing to see what talentless hacks they trot out to sing the praises of the talentless hack in question.

[doc]

Just so you know, the new Terry Goodkind novel coming out this November is the final book in the Sword of Truth series. So apparantly he does know how to finish a story. I got unitrested in the 6th or 7th book.

I liked Goodkind's writing. Then I found out he was a douche.
How so ??
Tell me next time you visit Montreal. I'll lend you the books.

No Stalking FC !!! :), Try E.E. Knights Vampire Earth series (6th book out soon) it's pretty good

[GreyOne]

You missed:

You're right. I must include the full context:

"...PWD's wife loves it when I read it to her. She orgasms five times as often as when her husband reads his Fabio Harlequin fan-fic. Now with the new Anomander Rake ball-gag and matching butt-plug, I'll be able to take her to new literary levels that her husband's "Return to Sender" Harlequin submissions never could!

[GreyOne]

It's called a "blurb."

Publishing companies fucking PAY writers to give blurbs for new novels.

I fucking never got my cut.

[GreyOne]

Who says what in blurbs is about as important as which political party Tom Cruise is supporting.

In much the same way it can be occasionally amusing to see what talentless hacks they trot out to sing the praises of the talentless hack in question.

GreyOne is no hack. He's ten times better than that PWD writer.

[Sobek]

A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome!!

We already decided WoT wasn't good enough to attribute to a RMWTS. I thought it was decided GRRMartin was such a beast -- he's at least got the Tourette's down.

[Schizm]

I fucking never got my cut.

Thats because you actually have to be a published writer.



...


So quit fucking PWDs wife and publish the memoirs already...

[GreyOne]

Thats because you actually have to be a published writer.



...


So quit fucking PWDs wife and publish the memoirs already...


You're right, I should. But I'll need a twelve-book cycle contract.

[Schizm]

You're right, I should. But I'll need a twelve-book cycle contract.

I'll give ya two dollars.

[GreyOne]

I'll give ya two dollars.

That means I'd only break even.

[Schizm]

That means I'd only break even.

you drive a hard bargain there.

$2.50, and I'll even make it American Money, which as we all know is much better than your filthy canukistani cash. A 25% profit is perfectly respectable, in this day and age.

[GreyOne]

you drive a hard bargain there.

$2.50, and I'll even make it American Money, which as we all know is much better than your filthy canukistani cash. A 25% profit is perfectly respectable, in this day and age.

You're not up on current events because the Canuck buck finished above par vs the US dollar this week. So your offer is now seriously under-valued.

I'll need the money in a crisp Toonie, and 2 Canadian quarters. Don't try and pass any of that American funny money in the change!

[Ergeheilalt]

How so ??


Have you ever been to his website? I mean, most author websites blow, but this guy uses his website for some majorly weird grandstanding - or did when I was in high school. He's like crazy looney kookie (but with backwards K's). And he treated his fans like garbage on his forums. It was really lame.

[Ancalagon]

No, no, NO!!!! A retarded monkey with Tourette's Syndrome!! Get it right, you Ottawa Oompa Loompa! :tongue:

Ottawa Oompa Loompa?

I see

*makes phone call*

Sir, one of them got away. We must re-initiate project Relentless Hunt. It's here sir, somewhere in the city.