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Harry
09-15-2007, 10:56 PM
LINK (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/sep/15/vigilante-justice-takes-fatal-turn/)

HELENWOOD, Tenn. -- Everybody in this little mountain community knew that Timothy Carl Chandler had been arrested on child pornography charges. It was in the newspaper and all over the TV news.

Two of Chandler's neighbors decided to do something about it, police say. They're accused of trying to scare him off by setting fire to his tiny house tucked away in a hardscrabble Appalachian hollow.

Two men are charged with setting a house fire in Helenwood, Tenn., that killed Melissa Chandler. The suspects said they intended only to scare Timothy Chandler, who is accused of downloading pornographic pictures of young girls. Duncan Mansfield Associated Press

Chandler, 53, escaped from the flames. But his wife was killed in what authorities are calling an example of vigilante justice.

"I really wish it wasn't me who got out," Chandler told Knoxville television station WBIR. "I wish it was her. She didn't deserve that."

Bobby Bell, a 37-year-old construction worker, and Gary Lamar Sellers, a 39-year-old coal-mining equipment mechanic, are jailed on $1 million bond, charged with first-degree murder and arson.

After losing all his possessions in the Sept. 2 fire, Chandler was living in a Knoxville homeless shelter. His attorney, public defender Larry Bryant, said Chandler expects to enter a plea next month to charges he downloaded more than 100 pornographic pictures of young girls.

His mother-in-law found some of the pictures on a disk he had given her to copy computer programs in May. She tipped off police, and Chandler was arrested Aug. 20. Released on $100,000 bond, he came home a few days before the fire.

Sellers and Bell told police they did not intend for anyone to die. They just wanted to get Timothy Chandler out of the neighborhood because he was "a pervert," Chief Deputy Bill Lane said.

Sellers admitted driving the pickup used that night, but he claimed Bell set the fire, according to an affidavit. After lighting the blaze, the pair "drove to a close location where both men watched the residence burn."

Bell "feels like it was a very unfortunate incident, just like everybody else," said his court-appointed lawyer, Lief Jeffers. "This was not anything that was intended by any of the parties."

Sellers' attorney, Jimmy Logan, did not return a call.

The fire is one of many examples of suspected vigilantism against sex offenders, ranging from harassment and arson to more violent crimes. A Nova Scotia man used Maine's sex offender registry last year to find and fatally shoot two registered sex offenders. Two convicted child rapists were killed in Washington state.

Helenwood, some 15 miles south of the Kentucky border, is a mountain community of about 800 people with an average household income of $17,700 -- less than half the state average.

The Chandlers and both suspects all lived on Butler Lane, a twisting one-lane country road that runs past small fields, weathered houses, outbuildings and trailers and rusting farm machinery. Homes are clustered so closely together that neighbors can keep an eye on each other from their back porch swings.

Oma Butler lives on a hill overlooking the now-charred one-bedroom home, which she rented to the Chandlers. She knows everyone involved and blamed the fire on a combination of alcohol, drugs and "no sense."

Records indicate Chandler served 18 months in prison in Ohio for a 1990 conviction for gross sexual imposition, which typically involves fondling. But he's had no problems since.

Bell and Sellers have had frequent run-ins with the law over relatively minor offenses, including drinking and driving on a revoked license.

Detective Don Laxton said several people were "hollering names and so forth" outside the Chandlers' house a few hours before the fire began.

Butler didn't think anything of the noise then, but awoke later to the sound of a truck spinning its wheels "like it was in a deep mud hole." She saw the red pickup drive to a nearby hill, park and turn off its lights.

Soon after, her son came running in. "Mom, mom, the house is on fire!" he yelled. The house's porch "was burning from one end to the other. It was a-flaming," she said.

Her son ran to the house. He smashed a window to get Chandler out. Then they broke open a door so Chandler could race inside for his wife. She was unconscious when Chandler brought her out. He tried CPR, but Melissa "Missy" Chandler, 37, died at the emergency room.

I'm surprised we don't hear stories like this more often. This is why people are not allowed to be judge, jury and executioner. Especially rednecks.

Harry
09-15-2007, 11:00 PM
That was on the inside of Section B of my local paper today. This one was on the front page:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/sep/14/limits-off-for-registry/

So far, 114 sex offenders have registered with Bartlett police and the Shelby County Sheriff's Office, but the number could grow.

Effective July 1, any Tennessean convicted of a sex crime -- regardless of how long ago -- is required to register with local police or law enforcement. Those moving to Tennessee have 48 hours to register after obtaining residence.

Although an Aug. 1 deadline was set for offenders to register, officials are asking others to come forward.

"Even if people were convicted in the 1940s or '50s, they need to come in and speak to us," said Bartlett Police Capt. Tina Schaber.

Under the old law, anyone freed from the correction system before July 1, 1995, did not have to register at all, and those convicted before July 1, 1997, did not have to be on the public sex-offender registry.

The new law will make communities safer, said sheriff's spokesman Steve Shular.

"Should a sex crime be committed, investigators will have quick reference to see if any past offenders might be connected to the crime," he said.

The change in law "basically, makes all of the offender registry public," said Schaber.

A statewide registry database, maintained by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, produces profiles of sex offenders, including a photo, address, conviction and the last date of registration. A new, online tracking map is also available.

Some offenders may be exempt from the public database though, said TBI spokesman Kristin Helm.

"A violent sexual offender has to stay on registry for life," she said. "Sexual offenders only have to stay on registry for 10 years."

Also, some crimes that existed in previous years may no longer exist, so the individual may not have to register, Schaber said.

"If it doesn't exist, we can't charge you (for failure to register)," she said. "But you need to come in and speak with us to see if the law still exists and what we need to do."

To keep law enforcement officers abreast of the new law, TBI officers have held training classes.

"We've been training sheriff's departments and police departments across the state to help them learn how to identify who needs to be registered," said Helm.

The Bartlett Police Department hosted classes on the law for several dozen West Tennessee law enforcement officers while a legal adviser held "routine update classes" for Shelby County sheriff's officers.

Local law enforcement needs help keeping records current, said Shular.

"Should someone have information about a sex offender, he or she may call the law enforcement agency that serves them," he said.

Residents in the Shelby County sheriff's districts should call 545-5509 or 545-5515 for assistance. Bartlett residents should contact Schaber or Bartlett Police Lt. Jeff Cox at 385-5565.

Northcott
09-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Wunderbar.

Say, wasn't homosexuality illegal back at one point? Are they going to demand that all gays and/or lesbians who might have ever been charged with some trumped-up homophobe law register? What about adulterers?

Ancalagon
09-16-2007, 01:18 AM
Bell "feels like it was a very unfortunate incident, just like everybody else," said his court-appointed lawyer, Lief Jeffers. "This was not anything that was intended by any of the parties."

Fuck that noise. If you want to be a vigilante, and you are too cowardly to face your target and instead you set fires that kill innocent people, your ass belongs in jail for a *looong* time.

Ancalagon

Varaj
09-16-2007, 07:54 AM
Sex offender is a pretty loose term. In Kansas City peeing on the side walk will get you listed as a sex offender. As you can guess the offender registry doesn't give you enough information to tell the difference between somebody that peed on the side walk drunk after a bar closed and somebody that is a serial rapist.

Scarbonac
09-16-2007, 11:54 AM
I imagine his mother-in-law regrets turning him in right now.



"Vigilantes" like this make me ill; I got a rope, anyone know where there's a good tall tree?

Northcott
09-16-2007, 09:16 PM
Sex offender is a pretty loose term. In Kansas City peeing on the side walk will get you listed as a sex offender. As you can guess the offender registry doesn't give you enough information to tell the difference between somebody that peed on the side walk drunk after a bar closed and somebody that is a serial rapist.

That's exactly the kind of thing I was afraid of.

Pigs in Space
09-16-2007, 09:48 PM
"Vigilantes" like this make me ill; I got a rope, anyone know where there's a good tall tree?

The irony!

Varaj
09-16-2007, 10:30 PM
That's exactly the kind of thing I was afraid of.

I believe most evidence suggests that registry lists hurt innocent people and do the exact opposite when it comes to protecting people from repeat offenders. Research suggests that registry lists and zoning actually increases the chances or re-offense.

For the most part registry lists are worse than useless.

Northcott
09-17-2007, 12:02 AM
I believe most evidence suggests that registry lists hurt innocent people and do the exact opposite when it comes to protecting people from repeat offenders. Research suggests that registry lists and zoning actually increases the chances or re-offense.

For the most part registry lists are worse than useless.


Whoa. Increases the chance of repeate offense? I can see all kinds of potential for such lists to bring harm in terms of people being tarred with the wrong brush, harmed due to incorrect inclusion, etc -- but increasing the chance of re-offending? I'd like to know the 'why' behind that. The first thing that leaps to mind for me is that it simply makes them more likely to be caught, and so we'd be seeing a clearer picture of repeat offence numbers rather than an actual increase.

Andreas
09-17-2007, 12:20 AM
Whoa. Increases the chance of repeate offense? I can see all kinds of potential for such lists to bring harm in terms of people being tarred with the wrong brush, harmed due to incorrect inclusion, etc -- but increasing the chance of re-offending? I'd like to know the 'why' behind that. The first thing that leaps to mind for me is that it simply makes them more likely to be caught, and so we'd be seeing a clearer picture of repeat offence numbers rather than an actual increase.

My guess to why there is an increased chance of re-offending:
If you get called a monster, why not continueing acting like one?

Northcott
09-17-2007, 12:27 AM
My guess to why there is an increased chance of re-offending:
If you get called a monster, why not continueing acting like one?

That's a possibility, and there's good sense to it, but it doesn't quite sit right with me. I thought it was pretty much an accepted failing of the prison system that repeat offenders are a commonality. Given the nature of certain types of sexual predators, and their seeming inability to stop themselves, I find it hard to believe that it's just people looking at them askance that's driving them to re-offend.


Pardon me if my writing's becoming incomprehensible. Starting to blink out. :) Message boards kick insomnia's ass!

Varaj
09-17-2007, 07:03 AM
Increased chance is due from reducing support structures. Zoning and registry lists make it harder to get a job, harder to live in the area close to work, family and medical support.
The best way to keep most offenders from repeating is to keep them employed and attending support groups. Registry lists reduce employment (do you want that person working for you?) reduced employment means reduced medicine and reduced support groups, both those cost a goodly amount and are payed for by the offender.


Northcott:
Sexual predators are heavily studied. There is tons of good research and information out there. The problem is people tend to foam out the mouth (not saying you are), claim there is nothing that can be done to help the problem.
Politicians are like vultures on the subject. They use the death of some child to enact useless or harmful laws that gain themselves untouchable popularity points. The laws become virtually impossible to fight against because of the attack of "why is my opponent soft on (or support) child rapists?"

Northcott
09-17-2007, 09:46 AM
Northcott:
Sexual predators are heavily studied. There is tons of good research and information out there. The problem is people tend to foam out the mouth (not saying you are), claim there is nothing that can be done to help the problem.

I'll freely admit that when it comes to peds and their ilk, I'm a foamy bastard. As a teen I spent one summer working at a camp for underprivledged kids, most of whom were chosen by Children's Aid for the theraputic effect 10 days in a supportive environment could have on them; most were from Toronto, but we had in one group from the Bronx, and one other from the USA -- though I can't remember where. I didn't deal much with that bunch.

Anyway, I digress. Again. In filtering through several groups of kids in 10 day cycles, some horror stories popped up (of course). For the life of me I can't imagine how cops in the anti-ped squad do what they do every day. There's not enough money in the world to compensate for that. I have to work really hard to keep the foam out of a conversation about those kinds of people.

Stratego
09-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Increased chance is due from reducing support structures. Zoning and registry lists make it harder to get a job, harder to live in the area close to work, family and medical support.
The best way to keep most offenders from repeating is to keep them employed and attending support groups. Registry lists reduce employment (do you want that person working for you?) reduced employment means reduced medicine and reduced support groups, both those cost a goodly amount and are payed for by the offender.


Apparently, it also makes them more likely to drop off the radar and stop informing authorities where they live. Some law enforcement officials claim that the lists and restrictions can make it more difficult to track offenders.

Varaj
09-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Apparently, it also makes them more likely to drop off the radar and stop informing authorities where they live. Some law enforcement officials claim that the lists and restrictions can make it more difficult to track offenders.

Yup.