"Provocative" attire gets woman kicked off airplane

[FeatsofClay]

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/features/9654552.html

http://media.philly.com/images/20070910_kylaebbert_250.jpg

Airline Tells Woman Her Outfit Won't Fly

SAN DIEGO - A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.

Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee asked her to leave her seat while the plane was preparing to leave San Diego's Lindbergh Field on July 3.

Ebbert, a student who was headed to Tucson for a doctor's appointment, said Friday on NBC's "Today" show that the employee told her she would have to catch a later flight.

"You're dressed inappropriately. This is a family airline. You're too provocative to fly on this plane," she quoted the employee as saying.

"I said, 'What part is it? The shirt? The skirt? Which part?' And he said the whole thing."

Ebbert was eventually allowed back on the plane after offering to adjust her sweater but said she was humiliated and embarrassed.

"I felt like everybody was staring at me. They had all heard him lecturing me," she told "Today" show host Matt Lauer. She appeared on the show in the same short white skirt, white shirt and green sweater that she said she wore on the flight.

Chris Mainz, a spokesman for the Dallas-based airline, said a customer service supervisor asked Ebbert to leave the plane and addressed her in the walkway leading back to the terminal, "away from the other customers."

The employee felt the outfit "revealed too much" but was placated after Ebbert made adjustments that included covering her stomach, Mainz said.


Strange. I am amazed some other airline hasn't offered her some free travel just for the publicity.

[PWD]

Obligatory "I'd give her a ride where she needs to go"

[Keeper of Secrets]

Why can't that chick sit next to me on a plane?

As far as her being 23, though? Total lie.

[Northcott]

It's not what I'd call tasteful, but apparently there's one more officious little twit in the world who has an exaggerated sense of his place. I mean, I knew they had air marshals now... but fashion police?

Edit: "I'm sorry, Miss, but your breasts are Weapons of Mass Distraction! You'll have to leave the plane."

[Xavier Lang]

Bad decision on the airline employees part.

[PWD]

So can you compliment hot women in airports by saying they are "tha bomb", or will that get homeland security on your ass?

[Varaj]

If the shirt wasn't pulled down (and it sounds like it wasn't) it sure as heck exposed that pink thong she is wearing; from the front. :eek:

Unless we are willing to declare airlines a public transportation (like subways and city buses) they were well within their right. I don't agree with their choice but it is theirs to make.

[PWD]

When she was getting on the flight, she didn't wear panties.

It was for the other passengers' comfort, she was being sensitive to their needs. Same reason she's shaved.

[Kwalish Kid]

Many of the women on campus here are dressed just the same.

[Northcott]

Many of the women on campus here are dressed just the same.


You're not hanging around Western, by any chance, are you?

[TiQuinn]

"I felt like everybody was staring at me."

Isn't that what she wanted in the first place? :)

[bunny]

Isn't that what she wanted in the first place? :)

Yes, but with desire rather than disgust at how she was delaying the flight.


As for the outfit, I've seen worse on planes. I think the employee was being a twit.

[PWD]

You're not hanging around Western, by any chance, are you?

I am. Every chance I get.:winkgun:

[FeatsofClay]

Opps, looks like it has happened twice-

Second woman says Southwest made her cover up



DALLAS, Texas (AP) -- A second young woman has come forward to claim that Southwest Airlines employees made her cover up on a recent flight, leading jet-setters to ask: Will my outfit fly?


Southwest Airlines said it had no record that Setara Qassim ever complained about the alleged incident.

Setara Qassim said a flight attendant confronted her during the trip from Tucson, Arizona, to Burbank, California, and asked whether she had a sweater to go over her green halter-style dress.

Qassim, 21, told KNBC-TV in Los Angeles she was forced to wrap a blanket around herself for the rest of the flight. She complained that if Southwest wants passengers to dress a certain way, it should publish a dress code.

Last week, 23-year-old Kayla Ebbert said a Southwest employee pulled her aside as she was preparing to board a plane departing San Diego for Tucson in July and told her she was dressed too provocatively to fly.

Ebbert, who took her case to NBC's "Today Show," said she was allowed on the plane after adjusting her sweater and short skirt. She said she was humiliated and felt the stares of other passengers who had overheard the verbal dressing-down.

Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Co. acknowledged the incident involving Ebbert, but airline spokesman Chris Mainz said the company had no record that Qassim ever complained.

Messages left with Qassim at her California home were not immediately returned to The Associated Press.

Southwest -- which dressed its stewardesses in hot pants and called itself "the love airline" back in the 1970s -- relies on employees to decide whether a passenger's attire may offend other customers, Mainz said.

"We don't have a dress code. We rely on our employees to use common sense, good judgment and good taste," Mainz said. "It's so rare for us to have to address a customer's clothing issue."

American Airlines claims the right to refuse to carry passengers for a variety of reasons, including being drunk, barefoot, having an offensive odor or being "clothed in a manner that would cause discomfort or offense to other passengers."

"It's generally a graphic on a T-shirt that might be uncomfortable" to another passenger, said American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner. "We always find ways to mitigate it as best possible, with not allowing someone on a flight being the last option."

David Castelveter, spokesman for the Air Transport Association, the trade group of the major U.S. airlines, said he didn't know of any airline having a dress code for passengers.

Lynda White, who teaches etiquette classes and calls herself "The First Lady of Manners," said many young people have gotten lax on what to wear and how to act -- possibly influenced by Hollywood stars. She recommends "business-casual" outfits for the plane because you might be seated next to a potential employer or business contact.

"If you wear provocative clothing, tattoos, or you smell of alcohol or cigarettes, who's going to believe you?" she said.

[doc]

Is Southwest going to change it's name to Amish Airlines ?

[Atropine Mama]

What. the Fuck. is Wrong. with People?

The skeezy bitch should wear a t-shirt unless she wants to be treated like a skeezy bitch.

The airline employee should get therapy and get laid to help alleviate his powerlessness frustrations.

Christ, people, fucking go to K-mart and buy yourselves some clues. Buy a few spare clues while you're at it, you're obviously running low pretty frequently.

[Scarbonac]

"You are now boarding Victorian Airlines; please make sure your burkhas are properly adjusted..."

[Dawnstar]

You have to be kidding me. I agree that if they can throw you off a flight for the clothing that you are wearing, it better be listed someplace that everyone can see. I see no problem with what the girl was wearing. I have seen so much worse on people.

[Snatch]

Why can't that chick sit next to me on a plane?


As a very, very frequent flyer...quoted for MOTHERFUKIN' TRUTH!

[Maddman]

10 to 1 the people complaining were dog-ass ugly. Cases like this are almost exclusively people who can't get laid lashing out at people who can.

[Northcott]

10 to 1 the people complaining were dog-ass ugly. Cases like this are almost exclusively people who can't get laid lashing out at people who can.

Quoted for truth. Not many people have the balls to say that.

[cnath.rm]

On another board someone make a comment about her tv appearance and how they blurred out her crotch when she was sitting down because otherwise her panties would have been visible. No direct knowledge on my part.

So how many of us wish we could have seen a picture of the outfit without the shirt pulled up and the skirt pulled down? :D For comparison purposes only of course...

[doc]

Was she wearing panties on the plane ? How bad was the flies ?

[Dark Jezter]

10 to 1 the people complaining were dog-ass ugly. Cases like this are almost exclusively people who can't get laid lashing out at people who can.

QFT.

As I said in the Circvs Maximvs thread on this same subject: How much do you want to bet that the passenger who complained is some old bag who looks something like Ma Fratelli from The Goonies? Almost every time I see a lot of hostility towards a hot babe, it's coming either from a woman who could never compete with her in the looks department or a guy who is so far below her that he'd never even register on her radar.

Quoted for truth. Not many people have the balls to say that.

On EN World a couple of years back there was a thread where a bunch of female posters and the "sensitive, new age guys" who wanted to score points with them were up in arms over TheLe's banner ads, which featured hot babes in bikinis. I so wanted to say "Listen up you humorless harpies: Just because you don't look anything like the girls in the ads doesn't mean that you have to ruin them for everybody else. Go find something important to be outraged over and let us have our fun."

Of course, saying that would have caused Morrus or Piratecat to instantly slap a ban on me, so I held my tongue (or rather, keyboard fingers). :)

[Snatch]

...were dog-ass ugly.

Is that better or worse than baboon-ass ugly?

[doc]

Is that better or worse than baboon-ass ugly?

Better nothing looks worst then baboon ass

[bunny]

10 to 1 the people complaining were dog-ass ugly. Cases like this are almost exclusively people who can't get laid lashing out at people who can.

Not necessarily so. There are many attractive women and men out there who can determine where the line is between attractive and trashy or in bad taste.

[PWD]

Not necessarily so. There are many attractive women and men out there who can determine where the line is between attractive and trashy or in bad taste.

Apparently, no there are not.

[bunny]

Apparently, no there are not.

Screw off, phylicia rashad is damn hot!

[PWD]

Screw off, phylicia rashad is damn hot!

I'm not even sure she's hot as in "hot flashes". :what:

[Cat of Ulthar]

Not necessarily so. There are many attractive women and men out there who can determine where the line is between attractive and trashy or in bad taste.

So, she looks trashy. I see people dressed like her every day on the train, on the street, everywhere. And suddenly when I board a plane I should be offended? I mean, what is going to happen? Is she going to go to the toilet at one point and I will momentarily be distracted from my book? There are many things which offend me on planes, #1 is lack of leg space (average height has gone up since the fifties! Really!!!), people who sit too broadly in their seat, forcing me to either touch them or cringe away, crying children, shouting children, the pressure in my ears when landing. I do not tend to look at people's attire. Yes, she was dressed provocatively. So are most actresses in airplane movies. Look the other way. Pffff.

[Kwalish Kid]

You're not hanging around Western, by any chance, are you?
Whenever I have to. I think that I even had a student dressed like that.

[Northcott]

I think that I even had a student dressed like that.

I'm not surprised, man. Western's got a broad reputation for being a good school to hang around if you're looking to get drunk and get laid. When we used to host the beginning of the year bashes for Western, Waterloo, Laurier, and Conestoga, we could count on certain behaviours from certain schools.

Waterloo kids were snotty and had an over-developed sense of their importance in the world. The more drunk they were, the more arrogant they became.

Laurier kids would get drunk and start fights. The University ended up having to set up a system to report their football players for this behaviour, so they could be tossed off the team if they continued to destroy their school's rep.

Western kids would get drunk, give handjobs, blowjobs, or fuck in the corners. Tossed a few out for pissing in the place... and not in the john.

[Ergeheilalt]

Tossed a few out for pissing in the place... and not in the john.

Pfft! DM Magic was just trying to get a little.

[Northcott]

Damn. Meant to give Erg positive rep for a good zinger, but neutralized it!

[Scarbonac]

Damn. Meant to give Erg positive rep for a good zinger, but neutralized it!

GreyOned for ya.

[cnath.rm]

Waterloo kids...

Laurier kids...


Western kids...So what about the Conestoga kids?

[Northcott]

So what about the Conestoga kids?

Came in, drank, had a good time, and left without a problem. Conestoga's a community college -- basically a trade school. They have law enforcement, nursing, used to have firefighter training, graphic design, tool & die, machinist, etc. Blue collar stuff. The school was treated as a joke for years on end, in spite of the fact that the grads tended to do very well in the real world, so there was no sense of entitlement or pretension to trip them up. Or at least that's my theory. :)

The Waterloo kids were the most annoying of the bunch.

[Kwalish Kid]

Our local community college is much rowdier!

http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?x=articles&p=196304&s=hottopics
A house party turns into a violent debacle as students battle police officers on Fleming Drive in east London.
Street brawl erupts
Norman De Bono
Sun Media
September 10, 2007

A "huge house party" turned into a street brawl early Sept. 9, as London police battled a largely Fanshawe College student crowd in an east London neighbourhood.

More than 30 officers were called to Fleming Drive shortly after midnight to subdue a "violent" crowd of 300 to 500 and used a taser on one person on the street known as a student residence area.

"It was nuts, it was just crazy," Const. Reed Holland said of the clash between youth and police.

"We received initial reports of a large disturbance and a number of officers were sent there to disperse the crowd. When we were trying to deal with the crowd, beer bottles were thrown and it started to get violent and unruly, and officers called for assistance."

One man at the scene said one bottle was thrown, narrowly missing an officer.

"That's when the police just went nuts," said Eric Cosman from Exeter, who was visiting student friends on the street.

"They called in other units and everything went wild. They brought out clubs, started hitting people, slammed people's faces into their (police) wagons."

The incident occurred as London Police launched Project LEARN (Liquor Enforcement and Reduction of Noise), an increase in police patrols in University of Western Ontario and Fanshawe College areas. The controversial program has been criticized by student officials as unfairly targeting students.

"Pretty much every night someone is out here, drinking and partying," added Brian Carey, a second-year Fanshawe student who lives on the street. "It is the first week of school and people party hard."

But Fanshawe College spokesperson Emily Marcoccia yesterday called the incident "hugely disappointing," and one to which the college will "aggressively" respond.

"We will take a day to determine what our next steps are, but we will meet with college officials and student leaders (today) and I tell you our response will be aggressive," said Marcoccia.

The college has student-awareness and -information campaigns to curb student partying, "but we will be debating whether they are enough," she added.

In March, 2006, an 18-year-old high school student struck his head and died following a night of drinking in a Fanshawe College residence room.

"We can only do so much but we hate to see students begin and end their careers in one week," she said.

The college has also met with landlords in the area and some have hired additional security for their buildings. The next step may involve contacting parents of some students, she added.

"Landlord have parents' names and addresses; they sign the leases too. We will discuss whether we need to engage parents more," said Marcoccia.

The college does send crews to neighbourhoods to clean the area after such parties, she added.

Jack Goodwin, 68, has lived on Fleming Drive for about 10 years and is now considering moving as a result of the street parties.

"We wanted to stay here, but it hard to say now if we will with all the students here," he said.

There are only a few non-student homes in the subdivision, he added.

"The kids don't care, they are here for a good time. I don't mind them having a beer in their yard but there is litter everywhere and broken glass on the street."

London police described one incident in the area early yesterday in which two males were assaulted by a group of three, which resulted in one of the victims having a beer bottle broken over his head.

The victim needed 10 staples to close a wound in the back of his head. Kevin Cappon, 19, of London, was charged with assault and Zachary Longo, 18, of Etobicoke, was charged with assault with a weapon.

In another incident, Christopher Guerin, 21, of London was subdued by a police Tazer. He is charged with one count of obstructing police and one count of resisting arrest. At the same scene, Joshua Bach, 19, of London was arrested and charged with one count of causing a disturbance.

In addition, numerous arrests were made for breach of the peace and being intoxicated in a public place. But many of these people were released after being held for the night and they weren't charged, added Holland.

The incident was in sharp contrast to the scene there just 24 hours earlier. That's when Controller Gord Hume accompanied police in a cruiser to Fleming Drive and saw some parties.

"That area is almost entirely student housing and I saw hundreds of students wandering from garage party to yard party to house party," but there were no incidents, he said.

Norman De Bono is a Free Press reporter

Picture caption: BIG MESS: Neighbour Jack Goodwin cleans up hundreds of cans and bottles. (SUE REEVE/Sun Media)

[Northcott]

Holy. Crap. :shock:

[doc]

She's on Dr. Phil today, so he'll strighten her out !!