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Ancalagon
11-15-2009, 07:05 PM
Hello

I have just learned that the USA has quietly changed a policy that banned people (non USA-citisens) who were HIV positive from entering the country.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/10/30/obama_to_announce_end_to_hiv_t.html?hpid=news-col-blog

White House announces end to HIV travel ban

Updated 12:30 p.m.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
President Obama called the 22-year ban on travel and immigration by HIV-positive individuals a decision "rooted in fear rather than fact" and announced the end of the rule-making process lifting the ban.

The president signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009 at the White House Friday and also spoke of the new rules, which have been under development more more than a year. "We are finishing the job," the president said.

The regulations are the final procedural step in ending the ban, and will be published Monday in the Federal Register, to be followed by the standard 60-day waiting period prior to implementation.

A ban on travel and immigration to the U.S. by individuals with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, was first established by the Reagan-era U.S. Public Health Service and then given further support when Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) added HIV to the travel-exclusion list in a move that was ultimately passed unanimously by the Senate in 1987.

A 1990-1991 effort to overturn the regulatory ban failed in the face of outcry and lobbying from conservative groups and bureaucratic turf disputes. The ban was upheld in 1993 when Congress added it to U.S. immigration laws.

The Senate finally voted to overturn the ban as part of approving legislation reauthorizing funding for the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, or PEPFAR, in 2008, and President Bush signed it into law on July 30 of that year. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and then-Sen. Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.) led the process in the Senate.

"This really proves that immigration laws that exclude families and stigmatize individuals are destined to fail," said Rachel B. Tiven, executive director of Immigration Equality, a group that has mobilized more than 20,000 comments in support of ending the ban.

"The climate has really changed," she said, attributing the end of the ban to a diminishment in "misinformation about HIV and AIDS."

The lifting of the ban removes one of the last vestiges of early U.S. AIDS policy. "We're thrilled that the ban has been lifted based on science, reason, and human rights. Our hope is that this decision reflects a commitment to adopting more evidence-based policies when confronting the AIDS epidemic and developing a comprehensive national AIDS strategy," said Kevin Robert Frost, CEO of amFAR, an AIDS research foundation.

Until today's announcement, the U.S. was one of only 7 countries with laws that bar entry of people with HIV, the group noted.

ROGAN GOSH
11-15-2009, 09:49 PM
I don't believe the ban should have been lifted. That's just my opinion. Not a gay hater or unsympathetic to people who are HIV positive.

If the bulk of mankind were as cautious and caring of others as we should be, we wouldn't have to worry as much about illnesses and diseases being so easily transmitted from one to another. But we aren't. And dispite all the "education" that has been shoved down the throat of mankind, people are still choosing to be careless, stupid and even malicious about HIV, Herpes and STDs,

I understand that great progress has been made to prolong the lives of those who have AIDS but it is still a killer and treatment is NOT afordable to everyone who gets diagnosed with the disease.

Lifting this ban may be a good humanitarian thing to do but as I see it, It offers to much of a risk.

Just my humble opinion.

Pigs in Space
11-15-2009, 10:04 PM
/me slaps rogan in the face.

ROGAN GOSH
11-15-2009, 11:04 PM
/me slaps rogan in the face.

Ouch. :(

Brynja
11-15-2009, 11:15 PM
I see nothing wrong with the ban. It is still a disease that kills though it is more chronic. Some folks may enter, and then need to rely on charity care even when uninsured.

Screw that.

I am unsympathetic.

Hatter
11-16-2009, 01:43 AM
The ban accomplishes nothing while denying access to people with potentially valid reasons to be here. It is useless and unfair. Good riddance.

TiQuinn
11-16-2009, 06:10 AM
I don't believe the ban should have been lifted. That's just my opinion. Not a gay hater or unsympathetic to people who are HIV positive.

If the bulk of mankind were as cautious and caring of others as we should be, we wouldn't have to worry as much about illnesses and diseases being so easily transmitted from one to another. But we aren't. And dispite all the "education" that has been shoved down the throat of mankind, people are still choosing to be careless, stupid and even malicious about HIV, Herpes and STDs,

I understand that great progress has been made to prolong the lives of those who have AIDS but it is still a killer and treatment is NOT afordable to everyone who gets diagnosed with the disease.

Lifting this ban may be a good humanitarian thing to do but as I see it, It offers to much of a risk.

Just my humble opinion.

I know just how you feel. I mean, some gay guy could bump into me or sneeze on me at the airport, probably on their way to get the latest drug cocktail, and accidentally give me AIDS or even worse, Herpes.

Varaj
11-16-2009, 08:13 AM
See nothing wrong with preventing immigration but don't see much of a reason with preventing travel.

Lady_Acoma
11-16-2009, 09:03 AM
See nothing wrong with preventing immigration but don't see much of a reason with preventing travel.

I am in agreement here.

ROGAN GOSH
11-16-2009, 02:47 PM
I know just how you feel. I mean, some gay guy could bump into me or sneeze on me at the airport, probably on their way to get the latest drug cocktail, and accidentally give me AIDS or even worse, Herpes.
Don't be an ass.

TiQuinn
11-16-2009, 02:51 PM
Don't be an ass.

No.

Cat's Paw Nebula
11-16-2009, 03:15 PM
See nothing wrong with preventing immigration but don't see much of a reason with preventing travel.
Exactly. Especially with all the ways someone can get HIV without being sexually irresponsible, and the fact that people with diseases like to travel and visit relatives too.

Hatter
11-16-2009, 03:48 PM
Exactly. Especially with all the ways someone can get HIV without being sexually irresponsible, and the fact that people with diseases like to travel and visit relatives too.

Or, you know, seek treatment for their illness.