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Name Lips
10-15-2009, 07:43 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33332436/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/


Interracial couple denied marriage license
La. justice of the peace cites concerns about any children couple might have

HAMMOND, La. - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.

Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

Neither Bardwell nor the couple immediately returned phone calls from The Associated Press. But Bardwell told the Daily Star of Hammond that he was not a racist.

"I do ceremonies for black couples right here in my house," Bardwell said. "My main concern is for the children."

‘I feel the children will later suffer’
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"I don't do interracial marriages because I don't want to put children in a situation they didn't bring on themselves," Bardwell said. "In my heart, I feel the children will later suffer."

If he does an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Thirty-year-old Beth Humphrey and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey told the newspaper she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples.

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzman. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

‘He knew he was breaking the law’
The ACLU was preparing a letter for the Louisiana Supreme Court, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and see if they can remove him from office, Schwartzman said.

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzman said.

According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
So... would he marry them if they were too old to have children?

I have a feeling he's about to lose his job...

Hatter
10-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Astounding.

Edit: Best comment about this story: "The judge is right, with mixed race parents that poor kid could grow up to be President or something."

Scutisorex Shrewlord
10-15-2009, 08:34 PM
From a legal perspective, the guy is of course completely wrong. It's not his job to make subjective observations on a couple's marriage or future. Just STFU and sign the papers. So there's no question he should lose his license to administer marraiges in Louisiana. In fact, this is kind of surprising to me. having lived on both sides of that state for a good number of years, I saw more inter-racial couples in LA than any other state I've lived in. I mean, that's what we call "Creole" today, and they're a big part of the region's history and culture.

But, I will say this. Mixed children do have a hard time, from blacks and whites (and Native Americans). What the guy said is, from information I have heard from misxed-race couples and their kids, generally accurate. So I hate to see the guy raked over the coals as being a racist. Nobody really knows whether he's a racist or not, and his refusal to do his job, and his reasons, do not of themselves make him a racist. They do make him unfit to administer marriages though.

Name Lips
10-15-2009, 08:58 PM
Well, marriages can be really bad ideas for a lot of reasons. Statistically most 18 year old who get married end up divorced, for instance, but we have decided as a society that 18 year olds should be able to make that decision - good or bad - for themselves. Same with interracial couples - their children might have a hard time, and their communities might shun them, but we've decided they should be able to take on such hardships if they so choose, and that society in general will be stronger because people have the freedom to face those challanges.



Married at 18, 13 years later and going strong Spikey

Old Fart
10-15-2009, 11:53 PM
Edit: Best comment about this story: "The judge is right, with mixed race parents that poor kid could grow up to be President or something."The irony being that the same people who voted him in also passed Prop 8.

Scutisorex Shrewlord
10-16-2009, 12:05 AM
The irony being that the same people who voted him in also passed Prop 8.

Ouch.

Dawnstar
10-16-2009, 01:14 PM
I saw this on Yahoo and thought I would post it over here for comments. The link is below.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff

Hatter
10-16-2009, 01:47 PM
You were beaten by Mr. Lips:

http://www.kaytastrophe.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7409

Atropine Mama
10-16-2009, 02:16 PM
MERGE!

Hatter
10-16-2009, 03:28 PM
And I'll form the head!

Ancalagon
10-16-2009, 08:52 PM
Giant robot aside, even if he's doing it "for the children", he's dead wrong. This man is not fit to do his duties.

shiningbrow
10-17-2009, 07:10 AM
That man needs to get out more. Or maybe turn on the tv. Maybe he hasn't heard of Barack Obama or Tiger Woods? There must be something wrong with his brain.