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Name Lips
10-02-2009, 09:21 PM
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/09/30/2084000.aspx


Congratulations! That stomach cramp is a full-term baby
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:52 PM PT
Filed Under: Diane Mapes
By Diane Mapes, contributing writer

We all get busy at times, so overwhelmed with work, family, friends and obligations that we neglect our bodies. But how is it possible to be so out of touch with your body that you don’t know you’re about to give birth?

Easy, say the people involved with “I Didn’t Know I Was Pregnant,” a 10-episode reality TV show that tells the story of 10 women who conceive and carry babies full term without realizing they’re pregnant.

“I think at first glance you think, how could a woman not know,” says Wendy Douglas, director of production for the TLC network. “Clearly she’s not paying attention or not smart or something. But that’s really not the case.”

A host of circumstances can contribute to a stealth pregnancy, say doctors, starting with the fact that not all women experience the familiar nausea, weight gain, swollen ankles, food aversions and emotional ups and downs we’ve come to associate with pregnancy.

Pregnancy symptoms can really vary,” says Dr. Michelle Evans, a reproductive endocrinologist from Pasadena, Calif., who’s featured on the show. “Some women have very minimal or no symptoms. Other women will be throwing up every day.”

Expectations can also come into play, say the experts. Some women will take a pregnancy test and receive a false negative. Or be told by their doctor they’re unable to conceive. Moms who’ve just delivered a baby often (mistakenly) believe it’s too soon to be pregnant; other women will be using birth control but for whatever reason – an expired condom, a missed pill, a course of antibiotics – the system will fail. Thinking there’s no way they could possibly be pregnant, these women will attribute their symptoms to something else – morning sickness becomes a bad bout with food poisoning, swollen ankles are due to all the time they spend on their feet. They’ll blame their weight gain on outside circumstances – stress from the job, the fact they recently quit smoking – or they simply won’t gain that much weight in the first place.

“Some women only gain 5 to 10 pounds in their pregnancy,” says Evans. “One woman on the show was taking all of these extra Pilates classes and working very hard at exercising because she was gaining weight and didn’t know why.”

Other women’s weight will go up and down so much on a normal basis that the extra pounds don’t seem all that strange.

But wouldn’t these moms feel their babies kick?

“Everyone should have some fetal movement during the latter half of their pregnancies but there’s absolutely a range,” says Dr. Karen Wells, an ob/gyn at the Center for Women’s Health at Evergreen Hospital in Kirkland, Wash. “If a woman is heavy she doesn’t feel things quite as much and if the placenta is in the front, right under the belly, and the baby is below that, that’s going to insulate it, too.”

But if a woman doesn’t believe she’s pregnant, the movement of a baby will often be attributed to something else, says Evans.

“They may think they have indigestion or that there’s something else going on that causes them to feel movement,” she says.

Even old standbys like a woman’s period – or lack thereof – can often prove to be unreliable indicators, say the experts.

“One of the things I saw in many of these cases was that the women had very irregular menstrual cycles,” says Evans, who studied the case histories of the women featured in the show. “Many were so irregular that their doctors told them ‘When you want to get pregnant, we’re going to have to help you because you’re not ovulating.’ So when they had symptoms during pregnancy, they attributed it to some other condition.”

Spotting – which often occurs during a woman’s pregnancy – was another factor that led to confusion. Women with irregular periods assumed an episode of spotting was simply their haphazard period showing up.

Psychological factors like fear and denial can also play a role in a “surprise” pregnancy.

“Our minds are our most powerful organs and there are people who really don’t want to be pregnant and convince themselves that they’re not,” says Wells. “This happened twice during my residency. One time, a woman was in labor and was sure she wasn’t pregnant even when the baby was crowning. Some people are in complete and total denial.”

Although doctors say going full-term without knowing you’re about to give birth is rare, TLC’s Douglas says she’s been inundated with stories of surprise pregnancies.

“Each time a show airs, we get a flood of letters from people saying ‘This happened to me!’ or “I know someone this happened to,’” she says. “I think right now we have well over 150 stories that we could tell.”

Indeed, the news is full of stories of stealth pregnancies. Last December, a British mother of two gave birth to a 5 pound, 8 ounce baby boy, who she claimed never kicked during the entire pregnancy. And in March of last year, 38-year-old Bonita Ewen of Oregon thought she was having stomach cramps, but instead gave birth to a 6 pound, 3 ounce baby boy out of the blue, telling reporters she had gained 10 pounds but experienced none of the “signs and symptoms of a pregnancy … no nausea, no cravings, none of that stuff.”

As in life, the unexpectant mothers featured in the show – which premiered September 30 –are from all walks of life. Some are in their late teens and early 20s, others are in their 40s (one woman was about to undergo a hysterectomy when doctors discovered she was on the verge of giving birth). Some have had children previously; others are new to the parenting game. One woman – who experienced no pregnancy symptoms whatsoever – tells the story of her two surprise deliveries, one at age 18 and another, three years later.

“Stealth moms” are found through e-0mails and letters sent to the show’s producers following each episode and via the show’s Web site.

Albeit unexpected, the babies are all healthy although considering the lack of prenatal care – and in some cases, the use of birth control pills or other medications – there are potential health concerns. The mothers, while unprepared, are extremely excited about their surprise packages.

Since none of them knew they had a baby on the way, stories are told in flashback form, via interviews with the women and her friends and family (many of whom vouch for the mother’s incognizance or lack of symptoms) and a series of dramatic reenactments.

And it can be dramatic, says Evans, who’s seen a surprise birth in action.

“When I was a resident, I once saw a patient like this in the ER,” she says. “A woman came in and and the family thought she had appendicitis or something horrible. They thought she needed surgery. I evaluated her and did a pelvic and I could feel a head. I said, ‘Oh my gosh, we need to get her to labor and delivery right away’ and everyone’s jaw just dropped.”
The real gem here is the comments. I've read through political comments, and a lot of dumbass youtube comments... but I've never seen people as fervently judgmental as they are here. There are testimonials from actual women who've experienced surprise pregnancies, who showed no symptoms at all... but it doesn't matter. At least 50% of the comments are women saying "It is absolutely 100% flat-out impossible for a woman to be pregnant and not know it, this article is complete BS." No wiggle room, no hedging... pure judgment that women with surprise births simply are in absolute denial. Some go on to say that if the mother is that delusional she doesn't deserve to keep her baby.

Harry
10-02-2009, 09:37 PM
You know.... I've been popping Tums pretty heavy the last few days, and I hate to admit, I've had some odd cravings. A little weight gain too. Last week I was in the bathroom all day one day, heaving pretty bad....

You think...? Maybe....?

shiningbrow
10-02-2009, 09:38 PM
People are all so different. It's ridiculous to pass judgment on other's bodily experiences. It's hard to imagine for me, but hell, I can't play ping pong well enough to qualify for the Olympics, either, so go figure.

Cat's Paw Nebula
10-02-2009, 10:42 PM
I had such a beautiful pregnancy that aside from the weight gain, I could have gone to full term and written any symptoms off. No morning sickness, no swollen ankles or unusual tenderness. I don't have a big problem believing it.

Brynja
10-03-2009, 12:42 AM
Jesus fuck I hope I have a "surprise" pregnancy like that lol.

TiQuinn
10-03-2009, 07:09 AM
I had such a beautiful pregnancy that aside from the weight gain, I could have gone to full term and written any symptoms off. No morning sickness, no swollen ankles or unusual tenderness. I don't have a big problem believing it.

No odd feelings like there's something alive inside kicking in the inside of your stomach?

Ancalagon
10-03-2009, 09:37 AM
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/09/30/2084000.aspx


The real gem here is the comments. I've read through political comments, and a lot of dumbass youtube comments... but I've never seen people as fervently judgmental as they are here. There are testimonials from actual women who've experienced surprise pregnancies, who showed no symptoms at all... but it doesn't matter. At least 50% of the comments are women saying "It is absolutely 100% flat-out impossible for a woman to be pregnant and not know it, this article is complete BS." No wiggle room, no hedging... pure judgment that women with surprise births simply are in absolute denial. Some go on to say that if the mother is that delusional she doesn't deserve to keep her baby.
And what if there WAS denial? Obviously it's because the woman is unable to face the pregnancy, probably because of past trauma...

... this is the problem of the western civilization - lack of compassion.

Aloysius
10-03-2009, 10:07 AM
... this is the problem of the western civilization - lack of compassion.

Do you think non-western civilisations have more compassion ? Think about it. And if you have a good example, please share it !

Ink Bleeder
10-03-2009, 11:07 AM
I just watched the show, and it was hilarious. All the women had issues that could explain why they never knew they were pregnant (or in labor), so it wasn't hard for me to feel compassion. But my favorite was the woman whose "cramps" were so bad she went to. . .her chiropractor! Twice! :rofl: They interviewed the chiropractor, too. They were all pretty damn embarrassed.

Cat's Paw Nebula
10-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Weak kicking is weaker than intestinal cramps. Trufax, mang.

DarwinOfMind
10-03-2009, 06:58 PM
I read an article about one of these surprise pregnacies. She'd been having back problems so extra pain was no surprise to her... the insane thing was, when she would have been about 6 months pregnant, they did a back x-ray on her! The doctor and the x-ray tech never noticed extra life form inside of her!

She gave birth on the bathroom floor with the only person around to help was her 4 year old daughter

So after that one, I'll believe anything.

obryn
10-03-2009, 07:36 PM
One of my good friends got pregnant on her and her husband's vacation in Egypt, and she didn't realize for 3 months. No morning sickness, and her cycles are (I suppose) irregular anyway...

The baby turned out just awesome. Name's Alexandria, since that's where she was conceived.

-O

Ergeheilalt
10-03-2009, 08:05 PM
Guess I'm going to show my womanly ignorance, but um...

A few months sans period isn't clue enough that something is worth going to the doctor for? I'd understand if it was one of those freak birth control babies and the whole deal with the 4 periods/year thing, but still.

obryn
10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Guess I'm going to show my womanly ignorance, but um...

A few months sans period isn't clue enough that something is worth going to the doctor for? I'd understand if it was one of those freak birth control babies and the whole deal with the 4 periods/year thing, but still.
Not every woman has regular cycles. Some skip them quite often.

Also, if your cycles are irregular, you might not keep good track.

-O

Dawnstar
10-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Guess I'm going to show my womanly ignorance, but um...

A few months sans period isn't clue enough that something is worth going to the doctor for? I'd understand if it was one of those freak birth control babies and the whole deal with the 4 periods/year thing, but still.

I know that I never have a regular period and have gone MONTHS without periods. I knew my cycle and knew that it was normal for me. So yes it is possible not to have a period and not think you are pregnant. Also there are people who bleed throughout their whole pregnancy so they think they never missed their period so how could they be pregnant.

I have watched the shows and can see some of them. Not everyone feels the baby moving around, it depends on where the placenta is and many other things.

So yes it is very possible to be pregnant and not know it.

Ergeheilalt
10-04-2009, 01:11 AM
Crazy.

Damn you, Mrs. Maiche, teaching me incorrect reproductive science!:shakefist:

Ancalagon
10-04-2009, 09:47 AM
Crazy.

Damn you, Mrs. Maiche, teaching me incorrect reproductive science!:shakefist:

Most science is taught in a simplified form at first. This is true even up to the first few years of university.

emerald
10-04-2009, 04:05 PM
I would say it is highly unlikely though not impossible. I dont have regular cycles because I have an IUD, but if I go more than 8-10 weeks with out a period I buy a pregnacy test just to be sure.

Ergeheilalt
10-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Most science is taught in a simplified form at first. This is true even up to the first few years of university.

:lol:

I know, but still.

crimson
10-05-2009, 09:26 PM
One of my good friends got pregnant on her and her husband's vacation in Egypt, and she didn't realize for 3 months. No morning sickness, and her cycles are (I suppose) irregular anyway...

The baby turned out just awesome. Name's Alexandria, since that's where she was conceived.

-O

It was actually 5 months. She went in for a pill re-up and the dr (I presume, could have been staff, not sure how those visits work) said "Hey, you're a little bit preggers" and due in Feb. She went to an ob-gyn and they said "Yeah, not so much Feb, more like December, so plztoadjust." This was last August. Sure enough, one female baby showed up in December. 12/2, I believe.

She's a very small woman, in pretty good shape, and spotted every month prior.

SpikeyFreak
10-06-2009, 10:07 AM
You guys keep saying, "irregular women can go months with a period" or "I know someone who didn't know until they were 5 months pregnant."

Both of those things are a FAR cry from 9 months, or almost 9 months.

And having seen two episodes of the show, I REALLY got the impression these women really weren't the brightest candles in the abbey. I mean really, most of the reasons people are giving for why someone would think they aren't pregnant are predicated on someone being pretty ignorant. People know that condoms break, the pill isn't 100% and pregnancy tests can be wrong.

I'm not going to say it's not possible for an intelligent woman to have a stealth pregnancy that goes full term, but this show sure as hell didn't prove it.

--Mean Spikey

Pigs in Space
10-08-2009, 12:05 AM
Well, look spikey, I'll explain it like a man would so you can tell.

Ever changed your routine or diet or whatever, and that resulted in you not having to poop for a really long time? Like a really long time?

This is exactly the same.

One day, you drink a big strong coffee and your body goes "WHOOOOA!" and then you run to the toilet, and you nearly pass out, but when you are done, my god are you proud. So proud that you call your family, and there are cigars and government handouts, and all that kind of stuff.

It's the same thing.