New version of D20 Modern ?

[doc]

Seen this both here and at ENWorld, but do y'all thing that a new version of D20 Modern (and Furture) will be released useing the SAGA rules (which I've never seen) ? What's better, worst of it compared to the Modern rules. What needs to be changed to fit a present day campaign.

[EhtoZed]

Seen this both here and at ENWorld, but do y'all thing that a new version of D20 Modern (and Furture) will be released useing the SAGA rules (which I've never seen) ? What's better, worst of it compared to the Modern rules. What needs to be changed to fit a present day campaign.
I seriously doubt it. It's been the red headed step child for awhile, and there haven't been any new products since, what, last September? Almost a year. D20 Modern's dead I'm afraid.

And if the original didn't do as well as they'd hoped I don't think they'll try again. Unfortunately.

[Kwalish Kid]

I'm still wailting for D20 Postmodern.

[ColonelHardisson]

Rob Heinsoo in one of the Gamer0 interview videos, indicated that there had been some game mechanics they'd come up with that were very cool but which didn't really fit D&D. Further, he hinted that there would be games - or at least, adjuncts to D&D - in which those mechanics would be used. For some reason, this set my Spidey-sense tingling. My first thought was a more modern or futuristic game. That's based on nothing but a half-assed hunch based on a vague statement by a D&D designer. But I'm wonderin' what other kind of game they might come up with, one that (presumably) wouldn't directly compete with or overlap D&D, but which might share the same mechanics.

[Martin]

Well, if they do bring out a new edition, I for one, will be greatly interested and would probably purchase it within the first week or so.

[shabois]

My understanding is they cut a lot of products from the D20modern line since it was not selling well. Especially all that spy stuff. Besides Top Secret, spy games have had a brutal track record.

[Keeper of Secrets]

My understanding is they cut a lot of products from the D20modern line since it was not selling well. Especially all that spy stuff. Besides Top Secret, spy games have had a brutal track record.

But why? Spy genere games are set up for gaming. The only problem with spy games is that they tend to work better with small groups 3 - 4 people. Remember, James Bond's friends either die or get fucked (literally) by Bond (or both).

Poor, poor Plenty O'Toole (See Diamonds are Forever)

[shabois]

I think it is too bad because I think the spy genre has been largely untapped in the RPG industry. But like you say it does not work well with larger groups. Mission Impossible is a great example of a spy group but it would be hard to recreate that in a roleplaying game. It would be very choppy during game play.

[Keeper of Secrets]

I think it is too bad because I think the spy genre has been largely untapped in the RPG industry. But like you say it does not work well with larger groups. Mission Impossible is a great example of a spy group but it would be hard to recreate that in a roleplaying game. It would be very choppy during game play.

Correct. Bond type villains are made for spy games but whenever I ran spy games years ago, I would have the villain enter the room and . . .

Dr. Medici: Good evening, International Players, as you can see, my plan is just about ready to come to -

Player 1: I shoot the fucker!

Me: Wait! Wait! He is delivering an evil speech and-

Player 2: Shoot the fucker! Shoot the fucker!

Player 3: I break out the cheese grater!*




*This group actually had a cheese grater to disfigure my villains. :(

[Hastur T. Fannon]

Correct. Bond type villains are made for spy games but whenever I ran spy games years ago, I would have the villain enter the room and . . .

Dr. Medici: Good evening, International Players, as you can see, my plan is just about ready to come to -

Player 1: I shoot the fucker!

Me: Wait! Wait! He is delivering an evil speech and-

This is what the "Evil Diatribe" feat is for :)

Doesn't Cinematic Unisystem have a feature where the players get a Drama Point each if they wait for the Villain to finish monologuing - or is that wishful thinking?

[doc]

Have no idea, with all the small companies doing Modern off-shoots you would thing WoTC would at least try to put stuff out.

[shabois]

I think WoTC is trying to show more business savvy. With the open licence and computer gaming, I think they have to be real selective on launching new games.