View Full Version : What do you think about Hunting?
Droid101
08-28-2007, 11:46 AM
Hunting for sport, food, fun, etc?
Do you like it? Do you hate it? Do you think it's evil? Are certain animals okay to hunt while certain other ones are not?
Harry
08-28-2007, 11:52 AM
I don't hunt animals, for sport or otherwise, and never have. Not my thing. But I have no problems whatsoever with hunting. I went with the "tradition" response, but I believe it is part of the human psyche.
I am known to hunt humans, but I'm not allowed to harm them. Catch and release only.
Bones
08-28-2007, 11:56 AM
Yep I hunt. No I don't just hunt to put some stuffed animal on the wall either. I hunt to fill my belly and I enjoy it.
TiQuinn
08-28-2007, 11:57 AM
I'll go with the tradition answer. I don't hunt, myself, but I don't have a problem with others hunting. Most hunters I know abide the law, are respectful of animals and the environment, eat what they kill, etc. The sport of it does enter into the picture, naturally. It's typically not most hunters' intentions to maim or torture the animals either.
GreyOne
08-28-2007, 12:02 PM
As long as it's done for food or perhaps legitimately controlling overpopulation, then I have no problem with it. Hunting as a source of food is perfectly justifiable in my worldview. However, to kill for the visceral thrill of the hunt or to "get in touch with nature" is not in keeping with my ethics or morals.
If it's done for sport then it's not much different from bullfighting or dogfighting for me.
mollygrue
08-28-2007, 12:05 PM
took first hunters safety course in jr hi, course we were huntin' wooly mammoths and saber tooth tigers back then, dont have a license currently.
dont hunt, havnt for years--has more to do with not liking to get up before dawn to go sit in the cold than the real ethics of the activity..although i admit i hate to look in their eyes....
unless you are a vegan who wears no leather or other animal products, it would seem incorrect to complain about killing animals.
i do object to the hunting "ranches" in which the animal is corraled and shot in a confined area--i think that the type of person who thinks of that as a thrill probably needs some "evaluation" psyciatrically, and my texan bro-in law who likes to "blast em till theres nuthin left but a greasy spot on the ground" is not my favorite person.
my mom lives further north in mi than i do--in an area where people regularly snowmobile to work--and theres a store off the highway that says : you are officially up north--last stop for beer and ammo. Scares me.
hunting is a way of life up here and a big part of the economy: bumper stickers for peta are altered to say: People Eating Tasty Animals.
I hunt deer yearly. It's an activity that's performed carefully, with respect for the animal both in the chase, the actual killing, and the subsequent use of what it's given you. Hunters who do not take it seriously, and do not have a reverence for nature and for the animals they stalk sicken me, as do those who do not make use of as much of the animal as is reasonable. My hides are donated to local indian groups to craft with, the bones are kept for stock, the meat is divided up amongst family and friends, the fat is turned into suet for the birds, and the organs are tossed out in the bush for the wolves to eat. Even in years where you don't get a deer, you've still had a great week out in the bush enjoying nature, sitting quietly with your thoughts.
I have in the past hunted other animals (partridge, ducks) without much success, so my hunting is mostly theoretical there, versus my actual success in deer hunting.
Limper
08-28-2007, 12:25 PM
If God didn't want us to hunt he wouldn't have made animals so tasty.
Janos
08-28-2007, 12:27 PM
I greatly enjoy the act, and especially the woodcraft that goes into it. There is a moment of pure bliss in stalking, aiming, pulling the trigger, seeing it hit, and knowing that you have succeeded. Hunting a boar was positively sublime.
That said, since I don't have a burning need to hunt to survive, I feel guilty indulging in the activity on all but rare occasions. The handful of times I've done it, most of it has gone to waste, or been dropped off at hunting lodges to be disposed of or used by the professionals there. And I end up eating deer or boar steak until it is coming out of my ears. That's a waste of life no matter how much fun hunting is.
I don't mind hunting rabbits or smaller animals, but they're not much sport either.
Varaj
08-28-2007, 12:30 PM
I have no problem with hunting as long as it is done responsibly. I have zero desire to hunt. Get up early, be cold outside, fuck that noise!
Harry
08-28-2007, 12:33 PM
I hunt to fill my belly and I enjoy it.
:bunny:
FeatsofClay
08-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Long-time hunter. I hunt white-tail from the ground with a 4 inch barrel .357 magnum.
I hunt to fill my belly.
Droid101
08-28-2007, 12:47 PM
As long as it's done for food or perhaps legitimately controlling overpopulation, then I have no problem with it. Hunting as a source of food is perfectly justifiable in my worldview. However, to kill for the visceral thrill of the hunt or to "get in touch with nature" is not in keeping with my ethics or morals.
If it's done for sport then it's not much different from bullfighting or dogfighting for me.
The reason I post threads are so I can get my opinion from someone else. Thanks GreyOne!
;)
Limper
08-28-2007, 12:50 PM
Long-time hunter. I hunt white-tail from the ground with a 4 inch barrel .357 magnum.
I hunt to fill my belly.
I think I know why you are so skinny.
Hunted when I was younger, like Varaj the early morning rise just doesn't suit my tender sensibilities. Did go on a hog hunt a few years ago, a sow about got me.
mollygrue
08-28-2007, 02:26 PM
Hunted when I was younger, like Varaj the early morning rise just doesn't suit my tender sensibilities. Did go on a hog hunt a few years ago, a sow about got me.
some local aristocrat brought in some special hogs a couple years ago--planned a very special hunt w/ cronies. they got out, settled in, reproduced abundantly, and have become a menace over 5 counties. they are huge and dangerous--currently no permit required to hunt them--dnr just wants em dead. co worker got one-brought in a tooth the length of my hand.
Northcott
08-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I hunt deer yearly. It's an activity that's performed carefully, with respect for the animal both in the chase, the actual killing, and the subsequent use of what it's given you. Hunters who do not take it seriously, and do not have a reverence for nature and for the animals they stalk sicken me, as do those who do not make use of as much of the animal as is reasonable. My hides are donated to local indian groups to craft with, the bones are kept for stock, the meat is divided up amongst family and friends, the fat is turned into suet for the birds, and the organs are tossed out in the bush for the wolves to eat. Even in years where you don't get a deer, you've still had a great week out in the bush enjoying nature, sitting quietly with your thoughts.
I have in the past hunted other animals (partridge, ducks) without much success, so my hunting is mostly theoretical there, versus my actual success in deer hunting.
Awesome stuff, man.
I've only been hunting once, though it's always been something I've been interested in. I went hunting with the Ojibwa, who showed me their traditional method of stalking moose and deer -- cruise around the lake in a powerboat at night, and shine a floodlight on the shore. Deer get paralyzed looking into the light, and you shoot 'em. Yes, it's "cheating", but that's how they feed their families in the winter, so they don't fuck around with the sport of it... though they brag as if they do.
And I've got to say, it's tougher pegging a deer from offshore standing in a rocking boat than some might think. ;)
PWD -- if you ever have a surplus of meat, man, I'd be mighty interested in acquiring some. It doesn't get more 'organic' than that. :)
Dacke
08-28-2007, 02:55 PM
The poll lacks my option: "I don't feel any particular need for hunting myself, but I don't have a problem with others doing it."
Limper
08-28-2007, 02:56 PM
And I've got to say, it's tougher pegging a deer from offshore standing in a rocking boat than some might think. ;)
I would imagine.
Space Cadet B^3
08-28-2007, 02:57 PM
I took hunter's safety in 7th grade, am practised with a variety of firearms, and am a pretty good shot. I grew up on a farm, and so hunting was a part of my life, I've hunted rabbit, quail, dove, and that's about it. Been friends with a lot of hunters.
One thing I think many people don't realize is just how much hunters are true conservationists. They care more about the animals than most people who protest hunting do.
One thing I think many people don't realize is just how much hunters are true conservationists. They care more about the animals than most people who protest hunting do.
This is an important point people like to gloss over. Yes, it's real easy to prejudge all hunters by the occasional yahoo we all know, but most hunters are good folks who truly care about the environment, the animals they hunt, and conservation efforts in general.
Many conservation organizations were founded by hunters in the first place.
Northcott
08-28-2007, 03:27 PM
I would imagine.
Not getting it, man. :confused:
Janos
08-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Not getting it, man. :confused:
:rolleyes::p
Pegging means fitting an object into a correctly shaped hole.
Black Angel
08-28-2007, 08:30 PM
I'm also finding it hard to pick an answer that suits how I feel on this topic. I would never hunt animals for myself, except for fishing (but I'm not sure if that counts in this situation). However, I can certainly respect the views of others above, if it is done humanely and is not wasted. I certainly can't claim 'oh noes the poor animals' because I eat meat. I do not support torture or killing just for the sake of it though.
Northcott
08-28-2007, 08:34 PM
:rolleyes::p
Pegging means fitting an object into a correctly shaped hole.
Ah. Regional slang difference, I suppose. I'm used to it being used as a term for a solid hit or good shot.
Northcott
08-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Hmmmmmm...
No. :)
Thanks, Cat, but I think I'll opt to remain ignorant on this subject. If it amuses Limper, chances are it's Cthulu-esque in origin.
Ergeheilalt
08-28-2007, 09:02 PM
I have no problem with hunting as long as it is done responsibly. I have zero desire to hunt. Get up early, be cold outside, fuck that noise!
Pretty much my opinion. I expect hunters to control their kill so as to not depopulate the area of stuff and to take care of their shit when they're done waiting out ducks (ie: taking care of spent casings, trash, etc.)
Goblin Girl
08-28-2007, 09:25 PM
As long as it's done for food or perhaps legitimately controlling overpopulation, then I have no problem with it. Hunting as a source of food is perfectly justifiable in my worldview. However, to kill for the visceral thrill of the hunt or to "get in touch with nature" is not in keeping with my ethics or morals.
If it's done for sport then it's not much different from bullfighting or dogfighting for me.
What he said.
We have a hunting dog, and I've thought it might be fun to get a hunting rifle and learn to use it, and then take the dog out pheasant hunting. Pheasant is good eatin' if you can get it. And the dog would have loads o' fun romping around in the back country, pointing at everything that moved.
Thoth-Amon
08-28-2007, 11:13 PM
I love my meat but couldn't pull the trigger to kill an animal. Yeah I'm a hypocrite so fucking what?
Northcott
08-28-2007, 11:24 PM
I love my meat but couldn't pull the trigger to kill an animal. Yeah I'm a hypocrite so fucking what?
No, that's squeamish. Lots of people are. :) Side-effect of our culture and tech level.
Hypocritical would be you enjoying meat and telling people who hunt for food that they're somehow morally inferior.
Thoth-Amon
08-29-2007, 12:08 AM
Hypocritical would be you enjoying meat and telling people who hunt for food that they're somehow morally inferior.
They are red necks aren't they?
FeatsofClay
08-29-2007, 12:17 AM
They are red necks aren't they?
http://www.amazon.com/Redneck-Manifesto-Hillbillies-Americas-Scapegoats/dp/0684838648
Read on it a little.
Thoth-Amon
08-29-2007, 08:25 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Redneck-Manifesto-Hillbillies-Americas-Scapegoats/dp/0684838648
Read on it a little.
My comment was meant as a joke. Up here in Canada there are tonnes of hunters must be all that wide open land we have.
Limper
08-29-2007, 08:25 AM
Hmmmmmm...
No. :)
Thanks, Cat, but I think I'll opt to remain ignorant on this subject. If it amuses Limper, chances are it's Cthulu-esque in origin.
She got it.
Pegging is strap on sex... I laughed when i read you post picturing some guy trying to hump a deer on shore from a boat.
Sobek
08-29-2007, 08:43 AM
I have little to no interest in actually hunting. I guess it'd be okay, but there are many, many things higher on my list of activities.
That said, I do loves me some deer meat and rejoice in having friends who do enjoy hunting.
FeatsofClay
08-29-2007, 09:19 AM
My comment was meant as a joke. Up here in Canada there are tonnes of hunters must be all that wide open land we have.
The book isn't about hunting, it is about rednecks. :)
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 11:58 AM
My ex was an avid hunter -- hunted all the time, waited all year to hunt, loved it. Too bad he sucked at it and couldn't hit a damn thing. He was such a bad shot, our dog -- his bird dog -- got disgusted with him and wouldn't hunt with him anymore. I am not making that up, so help me. Molly, can I get a little back-up here? ;) The ex would take the dog, Levi, out bird hunting. They'd be gone but ten minutes or so, and Levi would be back, barking to be let in. Ten minutes later, the ex would be back, cussing up a fit because Levi had left him in the woods. Heh.
I've been small-game hunting, but not deer hunting. Haven't been hunting at all in years, unless you count stalking the wily packaged roast through the aisles at the local grocery store.
mollygrue
08-29-2007, 12:13 PM
wasnt there a rather sad story about him trying to "hunt" a possum in a barrel? if they decide to start a fishing thread you could always share about the trout pond he made in the bathtub....the squirrels with fingers thing might be a "you had to know the guy" story tho.
sigh.he is a really good example of what hunters should not do, or be.
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 12:24 PM
wasnt there a rather sad story about him trying to "hunt" a possum in a barrel? if they decide to start a fishing thread you could always share about the trout pond he made in the bathtub....the squirrels with fingers thing might be a "you had to know the guy" story tho.
sigh.he is a really good example of what hunters should not do, or be.
Squirrel fingers are probably universal. "I will not have something with fingers in my freezer!"
Limper
08-29-2007, 12:32 PM
Squirrel fingers are probably universal. "I will not have something with fingers in my freezer!"
What do you do with the dead hookers then?
What do you do with the dead hookers then?
Chop off their fingers, duh.
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 12:40 PM
Chop off their fingers, duh.
That's what I made him do with the squirrel.
Limper
08-29-2007, 12:42 PM
That's what I made him do with the squirrel.
Now I know with hooker fingers I like to string them on a necklace take a day off of work and masturbate in the bathtub while wearing it... what do you do with squirrel fingers?
Now I know with hooker fingers I like to string them on a necklace take a day off of work and masturbate in the bathtub while wearing it... what do you do with squirrel fingers?
A more nature-oriented take on the french tickler?
GreyOne
08-29-2007, 12:50 PM
The beasts shall rise up and devour all the animal killerers and mutilatators!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004092008,00.html
The Winslow
08-29-2007, 12:50 PM
The poll choices are quite biased. With a couple of exceptions, all the hunters in my neck of the woods are ignorant assholes. They don't respect hunting laws, they don't care one bit about animal population control, and they do more ill than good when all is said and done.
They're not there for food or sport, just for the thrill of killing things. I overheard one once who said his wife was going to be upset with his catch, because it meant he'd have to buy a fourth freezer. If you already have three freezers full of venison, you don't need to go hunting for more!
Hunted when I was younger, like Varaj the early morning rise just doesn't suit my tender sensibilities. Did go on a hog hunt a few years ago, a sow about got me.
She must have recognized you as a (chauvinist) pig. :p
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 02:32 PM
Now I know with hooker fingers I like to string them on a necklace take a day off of work and masturbate in the bathtub while wearing it... what do you do with squirrel fingers?
Um. Throw them out, generally. However, if you're looking to broaden your horizons and would like them, I could mail them to you next time.
Limper
08-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Um. Throw them out, generally. However, if you're looking to broaden your horizons and would like them, I could mail them to you next time.
OOOoooo we could do a finger exchange!
Stratego
08-29-2007, 02:40 PM
OOOoooo we could do a finger exchange!
That's odd. These fingers are covered with Cheeto dust...
Limper
08-29-2007, 02:46 PM
That's odd. These fingers are covered with Cheeto dust...
Funny that.
Did I mention I'm making a KILLING on skin graft sales?
Stratego
08-29-2007, 02:54 PM
You do realize that the Greater Western Fatbeard (homo barbapinguis) is an endangered and highly sensitive* creature, right? I've already reportedy you to Fish and Wildlife you heartless bastard.
*Especially with all the recent, highly disruptive upheavals in its natural environment.
Limper
08-29-2007, 02:55 PM
Is it my fault they took a page from the Panda's book and won't breed?
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 03:11 PM
OOOoooo we could do a finger exchange!
No! No -- um -- it's a gift. Better to give than to receive! Right. Like . . . ah, early Christmas. I don't need a gift back. In fact, I prefer no gift backs. It's against my religion. Or something.
Limper
08-29-2007, 03:13 PM
No! No -- um -- it's a gift. Better to give than to receive! Right. Like . . . ah, early Christmas. I don't need a gift back. In fact, I prefer no gift backs. It's against my religion. Or something.
No hiding in a church... Atheist! You will take the gift you have earned!
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 03:17 PM
No hiding in a church... Atheist! You will take the gift you have earned!
Dammit! I knew that atheist thing would come back to bite me in the ass someday. Well, I suppose I could always make sandwiches out of them and serve them to my customers.
Like I did with the ex.
Did I say that out loud? Shoot.
mollygrue
08-29-2007, 03:24 PM
hey java--didnt yall just get a BRAND NEW FULL SIZE CHEST FREEZER--thats sitting empty...plenty of room for limpers generous offerings!---besides, with all the other parts in there, no one will notice "derwood" (c)
JavaElemental
08-29-2007, 03:25 PM
hey java--didnt yall just get a BRAND NEW FULL SIZE CHEST FREEZER--thats sitting empty...plenty of room for limpers generous offerings!---besides, with all the other parts in there, no one will notice "derwood" (c)
I'm not entirely sure I'd call them "generous offerings" . . .
mollygrue
08-29-2007, 03:29 PM
you could always share them out at The Restaurant Where You Work--add bbq sauce and pass em off as riblets.
tell em about the turkeys in the parking lot
Northcott
08-29-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm not entirely sure I'd call them "generous offerings" . . .
You haven't been around here long. This is an unexpected bounty of generosity where Limper is concerned.
If you already have three freezers full of venison, you don't need to go hunting for more!
You're only supposed to keep venison frozen for 6 months anyhow, so unless he's eating 3 squares a day, 7 days a week, no way is he gonna eat through all that venison before it goes bad.
Ergo, he's gonna poison himself and die, and we can all rejoice.
Martin
08-29-2007, 06:57 PM
I have no problem with hunting as long as it is done responsibly. I have zero desire to hunt. Get up early, be cold outside, fuck that noise!
What he said.
Limper
08-30-2007, 10:49 AM
You haven't been around here long. This is an unexpected bounty of generosity where Limper is concerned.
What he says is true I don't share my tasty trophies with just anyone.
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