How many people wouldn't be here if Droid had his way 60 years ago?

[Varaj]

My guess is most of us won't be.
If you family has a history of heart attacks or breast cancer, your out.
If you were born before your parents were 25, your out.
If you were born poor, your out.
If you parents are diabetic, your out.
If you parents had high blood pressure , your out.
Single parent, your out.
etc.

I'm personally removed in a good number of ways.

How about the rest of you?

[EhtoZed]

My guess is most of us won't be.
If you family has a history of heart attacks or breast cancer, your out.
If you were born before your parents were 25, your out.
If you were born poor, your out.
If you parents are diabetic, your out.
If you parents had high blood pressure , your out.
Single parent, your out.
etc.

I'm personally removed in a good number of ways.

How about the rest of you?
Uhm... what?

[Droid101]

Dude, I think you misinterpreted what my opinion was on a theoretical topic a little too far.

But it's still an interesting topic to talk about.

I'd be here, I was born when my parents were over 40 years old.

However, I wouldn't have any of my half-brothers or half sister; all born to parents who were under 25. Three of my half brothers are horrible abusive alcoholics (like their father), and the half sister is bat-shit insane, unable to hold down a relationship. One of my half-brothers is as normal as you can get being around the three other ones. He's the only one who I talk to or is in my life in any way.

[Limper]

Dude, I think you misinterpreted what my opinion was on a theoretical topic a little too far.

But it's still an interesting topic to talk about.

I'd be here, I was born when my parents were over 40 years old.

However, I wouldn't have any of my half-brothers or half sister; all born to parents who were under 25. Three of my half brothers are horrible abusive alcoholics (like their father), and the half sister is bat-shit insane, unable to hold down a relationship. One of my half-brothers is as normal as you can get being around the three other ones. He's the only one who I talk to or is in my life in any way.


Over 40 is such an increase chance of retardation that you wouldn't be here now.

[Varaj]

Dude, I think you misinterpreted what my opinion was on a theoretical topic a little too far.

But it's still an interesting topic to talk about.

I'd be here, I was born when my parents were over 40 years old.

However, I wouldn't have any of my half-brothers or half sister. 3 of my half brothers are horrible abusive alcoholics (like their father), and the half sister is bat-shit insane, unable to hold down a relationship. One of my half-brothers is as normal as you can get being around the three other ones. He's the only one who I talk to or is in my life in any way.


Your parents were over 40? Damn you're out too. Sorry, the chance for sever birth defects such as down syndrome go up greatly. Just wouldn't be ethical to take that risk. Nice knowing you.

[TiQuinn]

Dude, I think you misinterpreted what my opinion was on a theoretical topic a little too far.

Well, just because it's an opinion doesn't mean people can't say you're a dumbshit for having that opinion. :)

[PWD]

I barely squeak by since my dad's high blood pressure didn't manifest until later.

[Droid101]

Well, just because it's an opinion doesn't mean people can't say you're a dumbshit for having that opinion. :)

Yeah, but you can't say I'm a dumb shit for twisting the opinion I stated into something completely different.

I said I don't think I'd feel comfortable passing on a known lethal genetic disorder. Slightly high blood pressure doesn't qualify.

What I did say is a limit on age (over 25) to reproduce.

[Varaj]

Yeah, but you can't say I'm a dumb shit for twisting the opinion I stated into something completely different.

I said I don't think I'd feel comfortable passing on a known lethal genetic disorder. Slightly high blood pressure doesn't qualify.

What I did say is a limit on age (over 25) to reproduce.


And disabilities would not be allowed either.
http://www.kaytastrophe.com/vb/showpost.php?p=6311&postcount=39

Highblood pressure is one of the largest killers in the US. Obesity is another.

[Droid101]

And disabilities would not be allowed either.
http://www.kaytastrophe.com/vb/showpost.php?p=6311&postcount=39

Good job pointing out my Troll. You however failed to quote my post a page later stating my real opinion on the topic: http://www.kaytastrophe.com/vb/showpost.php?p=7131&postcount=51

[Varaj]

Good job pointing out my Troll. You however failed to quote my post a page later stating my real opinion on the topic: http://www.kaytastrophe.com/vb/showpost.php?p=7131&postcount=51


Yup you say it wouldn't be ethical. So you wouldn't be here if you had your ethical way. Same with most of us. :)

[Droid101]

Yup you say it wouldn't be ethical. So you wouldn't be here if you had your ethical way. Same with most of us. :)

Since I guess I wasn't that clear, when I said genetic disorder in that thread, I was referring to a genetic disorder that will most likely be fatal at a very young age, such as the one where you're unable to sleep (I forgot who mentioned it in that thread). But you guys can keep slamming me for this, it's cool. The eyeliner schtick was getting stale. :)

[Xavier Lang]

With Droid out for parents being to old, that just leaves PWD and I so far. Wouldn't that be a sad and scary world. :D

[there_is_no_bob]

I'd be here.


Couldn't reproduce, though.

[Varaj]

Since I guess I wasn't that clear, when I said genetic disorder in that thread, I was referring to a genetic disorder that will most likely be fatal at a very young age, such as the one where you're unable to sleep (I forgot who mentioned it in that thread). But you guys can keep slamming me for this, it's cool. The eyeliner schtick was getting stale. :)

The sleep one has a 50% chance of killing before the age of 50, that ain't that young.
Schizophrenics have a life expectancy of 35. I bet Morbidty will explain to you what that means.

[Limper]

With Droid out for parents being to old, that just leaves PWD and I so far. Wouldn't that be a sad and scary world. :D

So which of you would be the bottom?

[Droid101]

The sleep one has a 50% chance of killing before the age of 50, that ain't that young.
Schizophrenics have a life expectancy of 35. I bet Morbidty will explain to you what that means.

Okay, well the way it was explained (I didn't bother looking it up in depth) was that the baby wouldn't live past a year or something. I guess I should have looked up more articles.

35 is plenty old enough to be considered a good run. I think getting offed before you're five is pretty damn cruel, however.

[Varaj]

Okay, well the way it was explained (I didn't bother looking it up in depth) was that the baby wouldn't live past a year or something. I guess I should have looked up more articles.

35 is plenty old enough to be considered a good run. I think getting offed before you're five is pretty damn cruel, however.


Certainly a tough choice on reproducing when you have a good chance to pass along a life threatening or life ending illness. More so when it will kill very quickly.

[Martin]

YI said I don't think I'd feel comfortable passing on a known lethal genetic disorder.

You mean life? I mean, my parents passed life on to me and I'm going to die from it. It's the number one killer in the world.

What I did say is a limit on age (over 25) to reproduce.

Yeah, I'm not here based on that one alone. Thanks for wishing me out of existence.

[Droid101]

Yeah, I'm not here based on that one alone. Thanks for wishing me out of existence.

Hey, you didn't have to steal my newspaper!

[PWD]

With Droid out for parents being to old, that just leaves PWD and I so far. Wouldn't that be a sad and scary world. :D

The future's so bright I gotta wear shades. :cool:

[FeatsofClay]

This one remind sme of the mother of 8 who had syphillis. Three of the children she had were blind, two were deaf, one was mentally retarded.

Would you reccomend she had a 10th? Cause number 10 was good old Beethoven.

:D

Edit: Oh, and the poll disqualified me on the basis of poor. :)

[Northcott]

I almost squeaked in, save that my mother's blood pressure shot through the roof after her first pregnancy. She didn't have enough folic acid in her diet, and my sister didn't live long due to the birth defects she suffered.

[Martin]

35 is plenty old enough to be considered a good run.

So if this was my life expectancy, I wouldn't be here either. Good Christ, but you've got it in for me, don't you?

[Xavier Lang]

I'd be here.


Couldn't reproduce, though.

3 males, no females. I'm don't want to be a part of Droid's world.

[Droid101]

So if this was my life expectancy, I wouldn't be here either. Good Christ, but you've got it in for me, don't you?

The Sunday funnies always used to brighten my day! :mad:

[Droid101]

This one remind sme of the mother of 8 who had syphillis. Three of the children she had were blind, two were deaf, one was mentally retarded.

Would you reccomend she had a 10th? Cause number 10 was good old Beethoven.

:D
Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it?

I wonder what became of the other nine. :p

3 males, no females. I'm don't want to be a part of Droid's world.

Yeah, but hypothetically speaking, if there never were any females, you'd probably be attracted to males!! :D

[Martin]

The Sunday funnies always used to brighten my day! :mad:

Stymie, you've got me confused with another American ex-pat, I think. I don't even read the paper. Although that's probably yet another reason for me not to exist in your anti-Darwinian world.

[fett527]

Nope. History of heart disease. One of the reasons why I took control of myself and lost weight and got in better shape.

[Dawnstar]

I think i just make it. So I guess this makes me the first female. Should i be scared.

[fett527]

I think i just make it. So I guess this makes me the first female. Should i be scared.

http://www.circvsmaximvs.com/imagehosting/92946ccf577a000a.gif

[obryn]

My parents would be fine, grandpa not so much.

So not only are my brother and I gone, but my dad and his 3 sisters and their kids (& grandkids) are, too.

-O

[Lisa Nadazdy]

Over 40 is such an increase chance of retardation that you wouldn't be here now.


Although it seems that he might not have skipped past the retardation step. :expressionless:

[Sobek]

I barely squeak by since my dad's high blood pressure didn't manifest until later.

Ditto. Oddly enough, I don't seem to have inherited that. At my age, my dad was on a couple of different meds for his blood pressure. Mine is mid to low.

[Black Angel]

I think i just make it. So I guess this makes me the first female. Should i be scared.

Don't worry dawnstar, I'm in too... We girls can hang out together! :D

[Pigs in Space]

I might be here too.

Does one grandparent who had a heart attack at age 85 count?

Although we have bad eyesight in the family.

My parents were poor, but had earning potential.


This is what you get droid, for trying to start a theoretical conversation about eugenics. You goddam Nazi.

[Dawnstar]

Don't worry dawnstar, I'm in too... We girls can hang out together! :D

SWEET I am so happy that there is at least one more female and a cool one at that to hang out with. :)

[Morbidity]

This one remind sme of the mother of 8 who had syphillis. Three of the children she had were blind, two were deaf, one was mentally retarded.

Would you reccomend she had a 10th? Cause number 10 was good old Beethoven.

:D


Clay, I'm pretty sure this is a myth fabricated by a bunch of anti-abortionists. There's no basis for it at all that I'm aware of.

Oh and I'd still be around under Droid's regime.

[Morbidity]

Schizophrenics have a life expectancy of 35. I bet Morbidty will explain to you what that means.

Really. I had no idea it was so low. Is the low life expectancy due to a high rate of suicide or is it associated with other conditions? I have to say that this stat sounds wrong to me, where did you source it from?

I'd have expected the life expectancy to be cut by maybe 25 years which would put it around 55-60. Does schizophrenia usually onset at puberty? In which case maybe the life-expectancy is 35 years from typical onset.

Life expectancy of 35 is really really bad and is virtually always associated with conditions which have a high infant/childhood mortality.

[Brynja]

Where to start. My grandfather got my grandmother knocked up.
He was dirt poor.

My mom has a birth defect, so on that alone according to this plan she would have been sterilized right away- and I wouldn't be here amusing all of you

[Martin]

Where to start. My grandfather got my grandmother knocked up.
He was dirt poor.

My mom has a birth defect, so on that alone according to this plan she would have been sterilized right away- and I wouldn't be here amusing all of you

That's okay. You can join the Unliving of Droid's World. We're more fun to be around than those dirty Existees.

[Janos]

I'd be here since 60 years ago they had no way to test for Heart Disease (the only real genetic flaw in my family), other than that I'm off scott-free and would be laughing at the unborn sperm not-to-be's (or unliving of Driod's World) around here!

You wouldn't be born.

[Martin]

I'd be here since 60 years ago they had no way to test for Heart Disease (the only real genetic flaw in my family), other than that I'm off scott-free and would be laughing at the unborn sperm not-to-be's (or unliving of Driod's World) around here!

You wouldn't be born.

You'd miss us.

[there_is_no_bob]

You'd miss us.

Nuh-uh.


What with all the unliving zombies walking around, we'd all have pretty good aim!




...Yeah, it's a really, really old one. I'm all out of new funny.

[Janos]

You'd miss us.

Well, it would greatly cut into my list of who to mock. But I'd adapt. It's a good sacrafice to make to unborninate you!

[Harry]

I would still be here. Most of the negatives listed by Varaj in his OP were of little priority in the public mind when I was born. High blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, etc, were all known ailments but generally not tracked as a family heritage. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the doctors were handing out Lucky Strikes and PBRs in the delivery room when I was born.

That aside, all the ailments that have manifested over the years in my family tend to have been "one-shots", much like my arthritis.

[Varaj]

Really. I had no idea it was so low. Is the low life expectancy due to a high rate of suicide or is it associated with other conditions? I have to say that this stat sounds wrong to me, where did you source it from?

I'd have expected the life expectancy to be cut by maybe 25 years which would put it around 55-60. Does schizophrenia usually onset at puberty? In which case maybe the life-expectancy is 35 years from typical onset.

Life expectancy of 35 is really really bad and is virtually always associated with conditions which have a high infant/childhood mortality.

Well that is what I get for not double checking a fact. :o It is some where between 10%-20% less than non schizophrenics according to a quick google.
I was told the 35 years in a psych ward during a group on suicide prevention.

[nerfherder]

I think i just make it. So I guess this makes me the first female. Should i be scared.

Are you fat? </Droid101>

[Goblin Girl]

My father was dying of congestive heart failure when I was born. Of course, it was contracted through disease rather than genetics, so perhaps I am here after all. On the other hand three of my four grandparents were diabetic, so neither of my parents would have been here under droid's rules.

And the funny thing is, I am exceptionally healthy. My blood pressure is well within the healthy range. I do not have diabetes or heart disease. I don't have any other health problems either. Clearly, genetic factors do not necessarily determine health.

[fett527]

Are you fat? </Droid101>

Ah, a Droid-ism I had forgotten.

[Droid101]

Ah, a Droid-ism I had forgotten.

Yeah, but are you?






;)

[nerfherder]

Yeah, but are you?






;)

Only if you count love-handles.

[BOZ]

i'd still be here (although maybe not, since i think both of my parents might not). if you want to count other serious illnesses, my wife would not (sickle cell anemia) and therefore not my daughter or step-daughter.

droid, you sick murderer you! :mad:

[fett527]

Yeah, but are you?






;)

Check the member pics beeeatch!!

[Dawnstar]

Are you fat? </Droid101>

You got a problem with that!!

[Whirligig]

I wouldn't be here based on the under 25 rule (Mom was one month away from 21 and Dad was 21). :(

I also might hit the poor criteria given that they were living off my dad's meager Navy pay. :rolleyes:

[nerfherder]

You got a problem with that!!
No. And if you are (in Droid101's eyes), then you should have no reason to be scared in his brave new world.

[shellbelle101]

How poor is poor?

[BOZ]

yo mama so poor...

[Brynja]

...she couldn't pay attention