thoughts from watching heroes

[The Wanderer]

ok i am kind of a late bloomer to the heroes phenom. only started watching this season so i am missing the events to the first two seasons. which i normally hate because i have spent bout half a season figure out who is who. well on this weeks episode two questions popped into my mind that might be interesting to debate on

i do wish that they wouldnt of taken peters ability to have multiple powers but what would happen if he absorbs sylar's abilities. does he just get the core abilities or does he get the whole bread basket. if he was to absorb them all this would make sylar less threatening since peter would be an equal power wise but because of morals peter would still be at a disadvantage still. or not what are your thoughts on this.

my second thought was a bit more simple. if you were like peter is now and could only have one ability what ability would you want to have? and why. my own answer would be telekinesis. as to why i think the root of it coms from the empire strikes back when yoda lifts the x wing from the swamp. then reading the fantastic 4 and seeing what sue richards can do with her powers.

[Radu]

I'd like to have the super-power of not appearing in the show, but Sir Not Appearing in this Film has beaten me to it!

for a real answer, I think I'd choose regeneration. There's no limit to what Claire can learn in her nearly infinite lifetime.

[Lady Fury]

You need to watch last season when Peter took on Sylar's abilities. You'll have all your answers.

Last night was good. I'm hoping that we find out where Bennett's loyalties lie.

[Northcott]

It's worth noting that Sylar doesn't have to kill to mimic somebody's abilities. That's just his preferred method. He learned from Petreilli Sr. that he could do so by simply learning to empathize with someone. Plus he sucks at empathy.

If Peter absorbs Sylar's ability and doesn't run amok with the hunger this time, then he'd pretty much be back in business.

As for abilities... I'd love the classic strength/invulnerability combo. The two are linked to an extent -- you can't lift superhuman weights without your body being superhumanly resilient or resistant. So to get geeky: a tactile kinetic field. Or some such.

All the funky telekinetic and telepathic powers are pretty awesome. And Daphne's speed is too cool for school. But there's great amusement value in knowing that the sniper who just pegged you in the noggin and did nothing is freaking out, even if you can't see him.

[there_is_no_bob]

for a real answer, I think I'd choose regeneration. There's no limit to what Claire can learn in her nearly infinite lifetime.This.

Plus, mad money from working in a trauma centre.

[The Wanderer]

this is already getting interesting. me i want to move things with my mind like a jedi. one want says that they want want regeneration but with underlining immortality then the always idea of strength and toughness. all are cool but i would never want to be immortal. the thought of seeing time go by and watching people come and go like a fart in the wind doesn't appeal to me.

[there_is_no_bob]

this is already getting interesting. me i want to move things with my mind like a jedi. one want says that they want want regeneration but with underlining immortality then the always idea of strength and toughness. all are cool but i would never want to be immortal. the thought of seeing time go by and watching people come and go like a fart in the wind doesn't appeal to me.They wouldn't have to, though.

All you have to do is figure out how to make other people immortal, or make an AI friend.

[Name Lips]

All you have to do is figure out how to make other people immortal

And then teach them that they have to drink blood or they become mortal! It's like a prank that lasts centuries!

[Black Angel]

i do wish that they wouldnt of taken peters ability to have multiple powers but what would happen if he absorbs sylar's abilities. does he just get the core abilities or does he get the whole bread basket. if he was to absorb them all this would make sylar less threatening since peter would be an equal power wise but because of morals peter would still be at a disadvantage still. or not what are your thoughts on this.


I was actually wondering the same thing, regarding whether Peter would get all Sylar's abilities or just one.

As for what he would do if he had them all, I think his attitude may be different now than it was in previous seasons, so it would be interesting to see!

[Name Lips]

I've only seen Season 1 so I'm probably missing important info. But from what I've seen, Peter only gets a power if it's actually used in his presence. When Sylar threw lockers at him, he gained the telekinesis power. But not the freezing power (that we knew he had but never actually saw him use).

[The Wanderer]

I've only seen Season 1 so I'm probably missing important info. But from what I've seen, Peter only gets a power if it's actually used in his presence. When Sylar threw lockers at him, he gained the telekinesis power. But not the freezing power (that we knew he had but never actually saw him use).

Well now he jus has to touch the person and he absorbes their abilities but it is now just one ability at a time which greatly limits his choices and when under stress he can't control it and can accidenty absorb someones powers. The reason for this is that petrelli sr took all of peters powers for him then later peter took a syrum that gave people powers.

Kind of curious as to what is goin to happen with sylars little side story and if it links back up with the main arc again

[there_is_no_bob]

Well now he jus has to touch the person and he absorbes their abilities but it is now just one ability at a time which greatly limits his choices and when under stress he can't control it and can accidenty absorb someones powers. The reason for this is that petrelli sr took all of peters powers for him then later peter took a syrum that gave people powers.

Kind of curious as to what is goin to happen with sylars little side story and if it links back up with the main arc again

Hell, I'm more interested in Sylar than the rest of the cast.

All Sylar, all the time would at least be interesting. Maybe they'd get around to explaining what happened to all those brains that went missing.

[The Wanderer]

Missing brains?

[there_is_no_bob]

All the people who had their powers stolen also had their brains stolen, and no one ever explained what Sylar did with 'em. He didn't need to get rid of them, and he didn't need to eat them, so where the hell did they go?

Or did they explain that and I just wasn't paying attention?

[The Wanderer]

Ah I see. I knew he had this thing for slowly slicing a persons scalp when he took powers or wanted to torture civs but I didn't know there was more to it.

[Dacke]

Well, Sylar apparently has to study a person's brain in order to figure out how that person's power works. For most people, that means he has to kill them (though Claire survived on account of regeneration).

[Radu]

Sylar's "real" power is intuitive comprehension. By studying any complex system he gains an understanding of its workings. It has been soundly established by now that the root of all superpowers lies in the brain-- your body may be able to do incredible things, but it is your brain that does all the work. When Claire was stabbed in the brain in season 1, her powers stopped functioning. When the obstruction was removed, her brain was able to get her powers kick started again. That's one reason why the heroes are sedated with gas--- they can't muster up the proper concentration to focus their power, because their brains are fucked up.

That's why Sylar's whole "telekinetic lobotomy" act is around in the first place. He's not a sadist (at least he doesn't seem to be deliberately cruel about it) but he needs your brain alive and in working order so he can study it. Unfortunately that tends to kill most people.

[The Wanderer]

ah that explains alot for me. i have to get the all the box sets here soon so i can catch up

[Northcott]

It's also been established that he doesn't need to lobotomize people to gain their powers. He learned how to do it without -- to pick up powers through Empathy, like Peter did. When he lobotomizes them now, it's because he's wired to be a dangerous, crazy bastard.

Very possibly because he saw his father do the same thing to his mother when he was a kid.

[TiQuinn]

I'm still digging that show, especially the latest story arc. The biggest disappointment is still Hiro. Ando's become a much more compelling character. Hiro's character development has put him pretty much on par with....um, say Orko or Snarf. Just stupid.

[The Wanderer]

yeah hiro isnt the same since he lost his powers.

[there_is_no_bob]

Hiro's character development has...been largely regressive, for fucks sake.

Everytime he shows any signs of growth or change, he's back to being the same - or becoming a caricature of himself in season 1 - in the next episode. Or the next ten minutes.

[TiQuinn]

The whole "I DID IT" schtick has worn thin. It's not that any of the characters have really changed per se, but his character really needed to to remain interesting.

[Northcott]

Pretty much. They gave us hope that Hiro might become something other than a bad joke, and they lied. Those dirty, dirty bastards. Where's that time-tripping dude with the soul patch and the samurai sword? He's easily the worst-handled character in the series.

[Janos]

All the people who had their powers stolen also had their brains stolen, and no one ever explained what Sylar did with 'em. He didn't need to get rid of them, and he didn't need to eat them, so where the hell did they go?

They haven't explained it. I wrote it off to "People thought Sylar is cool, so we ditched the cannibal angle" a long time ago. Its the only explanation that makes sense in the changes from his first few episodes and the later ones.

[there_is_no_bob]

Yeah, I'm now pretty sure there's no there, there.

I still watch, but only so long as it doesn't conflict with something else I'm interested in.

[The Wanderer]

god damn it forgot it was monday and i missed heroes. guess i'll have to wait a couple days for it on hulu

[Pigs in Space]

Thoughts:
- Sylar is the most boring character.
- Parkman has jumped from annoying to the most interesting.
- Hiro has totally swapped with parkman.
- Claire was a better blonde before she dyed her hair blonder.
- Claire and the younger brother (peter, not her show younger brother, thankyou my wife) are doin' the nasty in real life.

[TiQuinn]

I still like Sylar. I find myself rooting for him as much as any of the actual "heroes" in the shoe.

[Northcott]

I thought John Glover as Sylar's father was amusing. It's like the guy is now typecast as the Father of the Villain -- having played Lionel Luthor on Smallville.

[The Wanderer]

ok i stayed away from this thread for a couple days til i got to catch up, and i was very very happy with john glovers casting. and i am curious as to what will happen with the baby.

[Harry]

Damnit. :mad:

I got real busy with some moderating shit at another website last Monday night, and completely blazed past the 8PM hour. Wasn't until about 10PM that I slapped my head and remembered that I'd forgotten Heroes. So.... I've been going to the NBC website a couple of times every day since Tuesday waiting for the "rewind" to come up, and it never has. It's been frustrating me immensely, and I was about to come here and ask "what's up" when I finally Googled it and saw they were off this week. grrr....

Bonus HJ dumbass moment of the week - did the same thing with the Obama/Leno interview. Really suppose it wouldn't kill me to turn the TV on once in a while.

[The Wanderer]

Damnit. :mad:

I got real busy with some moderating shit at another website last Monday night, and completely blazed past the 8PM hour. Wasn't until about 10PM that I slapped my head and remembered that I'd forgotten Heroes. So.... I've been going to the NBC website a couple of times every day since Tuesday waiting for the "rewind" to come up, and it never has. It's been frustrating me immensely, and I was about to come here and ask "what's up" when I finally Googled it and saw they were off this week. grrr....

Bonus HJ dumbass moment of the week - did the same thing with the Obama/Leno interview. Really suppose it wouldn't kill me to turn the TV on once in a while.

That is why I don't sweat it and check back with hulu every couple of days for any shows I miss this has been even more important since I started working nughts again.

[Harry]

Man, that was worth the wait! Tonight's Heroes fucking ROCKED. Best episode in ages.

[Lady Fury]

Man, that was worth the wait! Tonight's Heroes fucking ROCKED. Best episode in ages.

I'll second that! I was a bit surprised who rebel was. I should have saw that one coming.

[Harry]

Several of the storylines were downright touching and heartfelt, but the action was incredible, too. And yeah, Rebel, I should have seen that coming, but it was a surprise all the same.

[Dacke]

Can't say I was surprised by Rebel - I figured it was either Michah or Wireless.

[Radu]

Odd... I had the opposite impression of last night's episode. Not that it was bad, just... underwhelming.

I had kind of guessed who Rebel was, given the medium in which he always communicated. There are a finite number of heroes who could have done that, and once Rebel started making a serious play for the hero hunting team, it kind of cemented who they were.

What's interesting to me is how little I care about what happens to anyone anymore. I really don't care about the Petrelli family--- any of them, including Claire and her adopted family. I don't really care about Suresh or Matt Parkman either--- they've kind of "jumped the shark" with me. The only interesting characters on the show anymore for me are Sylar and Ando.

Unfortunately, Ando is more or less sidelined once more by Hiro, the least interesting character on the show!

I keep telling myself to put the show on a one episode probation- "If you don't interest me in this one episode, I will no longer watch."

Despite all this, however, I still watch. It never gets bad enough for me to completely throw up my hands and quit, but it has never managed to recapture the excitement of season one. I keep hoping it will pick up and the story will finally move somewhere--- I can't tell you how tired I am of the "conspiracy of the season" plot arcs.

Season 1 had a massive conspiracy. Who is this HRG guy and what's up with the apocalypse in New York?

Season 2... well, we just don't go there.

Season 3 had Nathan Petrelli's little super-mafia thing going on.

If the show goes beyond this into a season 5, I'll lay down some cash that they can't do anything in the first three episodes without pulling in some new conspiracy.

[Northcott]

I'm surprised they killed off Daphne. Parkman letting her go was a very poignant thing.

Beyond that... meh. Very underwhelmed. I watch it now out of morbid curiosity, and skip it some weeks.

[Pigs in Space]

Season 3 is beginning to tank...

It's still better than the reeking puddle of puke that season 2 was.

[Harry]

Ya'll are giving me in impression that I didn't like last night's episode half as much as I think I did, but I'm pretty sure I did think it rocked. Compared to half of last season and most of this one, it's the first one in ages that got me excited. At least, I'm thinking it was that way. Could be misremembering, but pretty sure I'm not. I think.