Real bad ass cop beats down 15 year old girl [Archive]

Harry

03-02-2009, 07:37 PM

I'm usually a defender of police but that certainly has all the appearance of of excessive force. :mad:

I agree with you and don't for a single moment condone the cop's actions, but.... betcha that's the last time that spoiled little brat throws a shoe at a cop and calls him a pig.

Ancalagon

03-02-2009, 07:38 PM

He must have gone to the same training facility that schooled the ones who tasered Dziekański... :grey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident

Dr Midnight

03-02-2009, 07:50 PM

Yyyyeah, that was pretty bad. Good luck to ya, abusive scum.

AZRogue

03-02-2009, 08:11 PM

Radu

03-02-2009, 08:13 PM

Yyyyeah, that was pretty bad. Good luck to ya, abusive scum.

Midnight! Welcome back, amigo! I was wondering where you'd been lurking this whole time.

AZRogue

03-02-2009, 08:32 PM

....

Who's Dr. Midnight?

Lady Fury

03-02-2009, 08:38 PM

....

Who's Dr. Midnight?

:lol:

Quite honestly I never thought we'd seem him around these parts.

Dr Midnight

03-02-2009, 08:44 PM

Yeah, Squash Cop said he was around here a bit and I need a place to be. Missed lots of you.

Freedom Canadian

03-02-2009, 09:37 PM

I agree with you and don't for a single moment condone the cop's actions, but.... betcha that's the last time that spoiled little brat throws a shoe at a cop and calls him a pig.

Not if she successfully sues the city over it ! :)

You know, camera awareness is now the most important survival skill for a cop (good or bad). Good riddance, I say.

shiningbrow

03-02-2009, 10:16 PM

Bratty kid, maybe. But kicking a rubber shoe at someone does not justify being beaten down by two men who each outweigh her by 2:1. Especially once she's down and subdued. There's no explanation for that other than sheer malice on the part of the officers. They are supposed to be professionals; but this video shows anything but that. As for the girl, she seems troubled enough to live past this and continue with the same behaviors, especially if the cops in question get punished and then sued for civil damages.

Radu

03-02-2009, 10:27 PM

....

Who's Dr. Midnight?

Oh, you're joking! Man, AZRogue, you do a great Dr. Midnite impression! :lol:

He's a holdover from prior incarnations of KT/Nutkinland/Nothingland/Whatever.

Cat of Ulthar

03-03-2009, 06:28 AM

In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

"Placed" her into handcuffs. Uhhuh. Good thing that video was there. I agree that that teenager probably was a pest, but this cop's violent abuse of authority is horrible. God knows how many times he's done this with no video present. And he was involved in shooting incidents? Sounds like the kind of guy who should never have been a copper, in my book.

SpikeyFreak

03-03-2009, 08:34 AM

I'm not surprised, to tell the truth. I hope the asshole gets raked through the coals.

Hopefully his fellow officers throw him under the bus and deride him for being a little bully cum-stain of a man; if they close ranks and try to defend him, then I hope they feel as much shame as possible before being mounted by a green-beret trained gorilla with a glass-encrusted strap-on, a bottle of Cialis, and a lot of time to kill.
This is the part that really gets me. The guy punches her, yanks her by her hair to the ground, punches her twice while she's on the ground, and the other cop just watches.

I'm sure they're trained not to ever contradict another officer with a "criminal" present, but holy shit how can the other guy not try to do something to stop him going berserker on her ass?

Just makes me think maybe they are all bad. And this is coming from someone who's brother, a good guy that I love, is a police officer in Houston.

--:mad: Spikey

Bagpuss

03-03-2009, 08:37 AM

It happened pretty quick and there was no sound, you can't really judge the other cops actions too harshly, he could easily have been so surprised by the out burst that he didn't know what to do. He could have told the other officer to stop and that's why he only hits her twice while she is on the floor, and not more.

I really hope the offending officer gets prison time for this.

Name Lips

03-03-2009, 08:41 AM

So she took the car without permission and the parents called the cops on her, probably to scare a lesson into her. I don't think they intended her to get brutally beaten.

She's a teenage girl with attitude problems. Nothing new there. But she doesn't deserve this -- nobody does unless they're an active threat to the officer.

Bagpuss

03-03-2009, 08:47 AM

nobody does unless they're an active threat to the officer.

Hey those Converse Pumps can really sting if they catch you badly. He was in fear for his life.

TiQuinn

03-03-2009, 09:10 AM

Hey those Converse Pumps can really sting if they catch you badly. He was in fear for his life.

Yeah, this really got me.

In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.

So the big, bad cop got a little boo boo from a tennis shoe? (yeah, right) :rolleyes:

I hope one of the other officers called him a fucking pussy.

AZRogue

03-03-2009, 09:16 AM

Oh, you're joking! Man, AZRogue, you do a great Dr. Midnite impression! :lol:

He's a holdover from prior incarnations of KT/Nutkinland/Nothingland/Whatever.

Oh, THAT Dr. Midnight. ;)

PWD

03-03-2009, 09:37 AM

Am I the only one saw him lift her up by the hair after she was cuffed? Seems not to have been mentioned.

AZRogue

03-03-2009, 10:44 AM

He did. He wasn't trying to be gentle. Her shoe must have really offended him (maybe he's Muslim?).

The fact of the matter is that he abused his authority to exact petty revenge for an even more petty insult ... from a child. He lost his temper and acted on his impulses while doing one of the few jobs that allows no such leeway. I don't think there's any give on the issue. The guy does not have the proper temperament to be a cop, end of story. He could be fucking Columbo when it comes to police work but I think he just doesn't qualify anymore. He's just not fit.

What I'm looking for is the reaction from the other officers. I think the "us vs them" attitude that a lot of officers embrace is a big problem and something I think needs to be extinguished at every opportunity.

there_is_no_bob

03-03-2009, 11:21 AM

This is the part that really gets me. The guy punches her, yanks her by her hair to the ground, punches her twice while she's on the ground, and the other cop just watches.

I'm sure they're trained not to ever contradict another officer with a "criminal" present, but holy shit how can the other guy not try to do something to stop him going berserker on her ass?Probably hoped that if she was down and restrained, the other guy would stop.

Name Lips

03-03-2009, 12:57 PM

It looked to me like cop#2 said something and held out his arm when cop#1 was punching her on the ground, and that cop#1 stopped hitting her after that. It was probably something along the lines of "take it easy man, she's just a kid, you don't want to really hurt her."

I loathe to think what might have happened if cop#2 hadn't been there at all. No witnesses... a volitile, abusive cop on the edge with a lippy teenage girl. It could have been a lot worse.

Aren't there supposed to be psych evals that weed out guys like this?

Bagpuss

03-03-2009, 01:12 PM

Aren't there supposed to be psych evals that weed out guys like this?

I think studies have show that power corrupts, he might not have always have been so abusive.

Name Lips

03-03-2009, 01:20 PM

You're probably right. Caliphis once worked at the State Pen... he said he had to leave because he didn't like what it was doing to his head. It was making him more aggressive. It was making him have racist thoughts (when 90% of the inmates are minorities, and 90% of the guards are white, it fucks with your head). So he left. But there were guards there who loved it. They loved the power. Even if they weren't abusive (I cling to the notion that most aren't) they still got a thrill from being the ones in charge and having all those scum forced to obey them or suffer consequences. For some it was their life's career - they would never want to do anything else.

Freedom Canadian

03-03-2009, 07:17 PM

Just makes me think maybe they are all bad. And this is coming from someone who's brother, a good guy that I love, is a police officer in Houston.

No cop is good or bad. Each has good and bad days. Of course, some have way more bad days than others. This scumbag, for example, might very well also be the type of cop who will risk his life to save yours in the right situation. People are complex individuals, not easily defined by the D&D alignment system.

As to not intervening, that is one of the negative effects of the thin blue line phenomenon. When you believe (rightly or not) that the whole world is against you and that the only ones you can count on are your police brothers, then you will not ever side with strangers against them no matter what they do. You might talk to them later about their needing to cut it out, but intervening on the spot becomes hard (not impossible, though, and that guy should have intervened).

Pigs in Space

03-03-2009, 07:24 PM

I wonder just how hard one has to throw a tennis shoe to cause a bruise.

I reckon pretty fucking hard.

Cat of Ulthar

03-04-2009, 08:51 AM

He hit the toilet later on. I think a steel toilet is more likely to bruise than a tennis shoe, but I am not going to do an empirical experiment.

As to the other cop, he seems to have intervened at least a bit.