Cat of Ulthar
10-22-2008, 10:51 AM
Now, I am severely into the idea of domestic discipline in the form of men dominating their wife. (Yeah, I am very politically incorrect in my fetishes). The idea turns me on. So I like reading about it, and unsurprisingly there are many web sites out there.
One I particularly like is Taken In Hand (http://www.takeninhand.com/), which seems to be the most sane one out there: it is owned by a woman, discussions are rife and not censored, and on the whole there seems an openness and acceptance of all. The consensus seems to be that it is a sexual fun thing and something that consenting sane adults can enjoy together, and I enjoy the emphasis on that it is something that should only be done by men and women strong of character who respect each other; who can then decide together how far they want to take this, and have fun with it, however way they want.
Loving Domestic Discipline (http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/) is quite a bit more insane. The owner of the site never misses an opportunity to mention that women need to be disciplined by men in order to live happy lives as they are prone to be overemotional and weak in judgement (uhhuh. That's why our jails are full of female criminals and so many women run away with young men leaving their husbands to take care of the children...). Now I admit, the idea excites me, but I do not in any way pretend to take this seriously. But many seem to, and though that is disturbing, even this site's owner admits that it is something only to be undertaken when both partners want it. Fine. Do your thing, though I fear for the women's sanity who actually believe this. But still, if that's what you want, go ahead sister, you're an adult.
However, what my sanity was not prepared for, was Christians. I had seen (thanks to Kay's or NTL, don't remember which broke my innocence in this aspect) Christian Domestic Discipline (http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/CDDHome.html) and it scared me, though I will admit to reading every nook and cranny of the site. Men and women thinking it is God's will that men whip their women? Dear goodness, this is wrong in so many ways I cannot begin to express. What is America doing fighting the Taliban when they have insaniacs like this in their own country?
However, it got worse. Looking through Yahoo groups, I found out that domestic discipline is not just used for wives and husbands. It is inflicted on children.
I admit that there may be some children who may benefit from an occasional spanking. But these people are utterly insane. :boggle:
I found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christianmastersslaves
A group for "Christian Men that have the desire and means to care for a slave wife.
They understand the responsibility that goes with ownership and are
ready to step up and be Godly men.
Women that desire to become the property of their husbands. they
understands they are inferior to men and long to be completely
subservient and controlled by a strict Christian Man."
Okay... is this just kinky Christians who desire to have the Bible validate their kinkyness? Please God?
But no.
"I believe children should be raised according to our beliefs. girls should be raised as slaves and boys as Masters."
"I feel the Father should teach the boys how to Master their sisters under strict supervision. I believe the boys should see the mother and sisters physically punished and again, when they reach a certain age the boys can discipline their sisters."
"I have raised my girls to be future slaves to their husbands and I have
raised my son to be a future Master over his wife."
"There is no question then that girls should be brought up from the
start to learn, practice and fulfill their role as slave/breeder.
Likewise, boys are raised in a parallel fashion to be master/father are
of their own home.
I think that nudism, public discipline and frank/open discussions are
daily events in the home."
"womens roles are as slaves and breeders and that daughters do belong to the Father and he can do with them as He pleases."
This is just from the first page of messages. These people are dangerous. They homeschool their kids so the poor kiddies never get to see any life outside of what they see at home. They will never learn that this is not the normal way to live. They will think this is God's will and never question it.
There is so much wrongness in this that it broke my brain.
One I particularly like is Taken In Hand (http://www.takeninhand.com/), which seems to be the most sane one out there: it is owned by a woman, discussions are rife and not censored, and on the whole there seems an openness and acceptance of all. The consensus seems to be that it is a sexual fun thing and something that consenting sane adults can enjoy together, and I enjoy the emphasis on that it is something that should only be done by men and women strong of character who respect each other; who can then decide together how far they want to take this, and have fun with it, however way they want.
Loving Domestic Discipline (http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/) is quite a bit more insane. The owner of the site never misses an opportunity to mention that women need to be disciplined by men in order to live happy lives as they are prone to be overemotional and weak in judgement (uhhuh. That's why our jails are full of female criminals and so many women run away with young men leaving their husbands to take care of the children...). Now I admit, the idea excites me, but I do not in any way pretend to take this seriously. But many seem to, and though that is disturbing, even this site's owner admits that it is something only to be undertaken when both partners want it. Fine. Do your thing, though I fear for the women's sanity who actually believe this. But still, if that's what you want, go ahead sister, you're an adult.
However, what my sanity was not prepared for, was Christians. I had seen (thanks to Kay's or NTL, don't remember which broke my innocence in this aspect) Christian Domestic Discipline (http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/CDDHome.html) and it scared me, though I will admit to reading every nook and cranny of the site. Men and women thinking it is God's will that men whip their women? Dear goodness, this is wrong in so many ways I cannot begin to express. What is America doing fighting the Taliban when they have insaniacs like this in their own country?
However, it got worse. Looking through Yahoo groups, I found out that domestic discipline is not just used for wives and husbands. It is inflicted on children.
I admit that there may be some children who may benefit from an occasional spanking. But these people are utterly insane. :boggle:
I found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christianmastersslaves
A group for "Christian Men that have the desire and means to care for a slave wife.
They understand the responsibility that goes with ownership and are
ready to step up and be Godly men.
Women that desire to become the property of their husbands. they
understands they are inferior to men and long to be completely
subservient and controlled by a strict Christian Man."
Okay... is this just kinky Christians who desire to have the Bible validate their kinkyness? Please God?
But no.
"I believe children should be raised according to our beliefs. girls should be raised as slaves and boys as Masters."
"I feel the Father should teach the boys how to Master their sisters under strict supervision. I believe the boys should see the mother and sisters physically punished and again, when they reach a certain age the boys can discipline their sisters."
"I have raised my girls to be future slaves to their husbands and I have
raised my son to be a future Master over his wife."
"There is no question then that girls should be brought up from the
start to learn, practice and fulfill their role as slave/breeder.
Likewise, boys are raised in a parallel fashion to be master/father are
of their own home.
I think that nudism, public discipline and frank/open discussions are
daily events in the home."
"womens roles are as slaves and breeders and that daughters do belong to the Father and he can do with them as He pleases."
This is just from the first page of messages. These people are dangerous. They homeschool their kids so the poor kiddies never get to see any life outside of what they see at home. They will never learn that this is not the normal way to live. They will think this is God's will and never question it.
There is so much wrongness in this that it broke my brain.