gun owner, mentally insane??

[Teve]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aIb-IplqY

From: http://voluntarilyconservative.blogspot.com/2008/08/rewind-biden-thinks-gun-owners-have.html

Wow! Did he really just diagnose that guy, because he owns a gun?

[Harry]

Wow! Did he really just diagnose that guy, because he owns a gun?

Yep. He did. And you know what? So did I. That guy WAS a fruitcake. Nuttier than a pecan tree.

[Teve]

explain? perhaps he did not word his question the best. But it was a legitimate question about the protection of his owning guns.

[Harry]

His tone of voice, that particular gun which looked like an assault rifle, his repeated referral to it as his "baby", the fact that he was presenting his question to a group of Democrats... The mustache, the wife beater, from Michigan....

I want you to explain to me how it is that the fellow is NOT demonstrably insane.

[Name Lips]

I think Biden was making too much of the guy calling his gun his "baby." Average joes don't - and shouldn't have to - watch their exact words the way politicians do.

We've been talking about democrats sounding elitist... and essentially making fun of somebody for the metaphor he uses for expressing his love and care for a prized posession comes off as awfully snobish.

[Lady Fury]

No he diagnosed him because he thinks his gun is a "baby". :tongue:

[Teve]

The fact he was posing the question to democrats, you got a good point there. ;)

But I call my guns my babys too. Most of what I own is of little value monetarily, but only the living creatures in the house take presidence over my firearms. They are valuable, both monetarily, and otherwise. They are among the few things I own that I would not give up. (the living things and my books also fall into that catagory)

and what does it being an assult rifle have to do with anything? It was a legal one, and one leven egal under the assult ban of '94... (the magazine was post ban)


He was not professional, and he did look like a white trash, whatever. I'll give you all of that. But there's a lot of them out there. I think what gun owners see when they see him, is average joe schmo gun owner. Hunter and/or shooter.

[FeatsofClay]

Wow! Did he really just diagnose that guy, because he owns a gun?

No. I saw a man refer to someone handling a gun in a hideously irresponsible and unsafe manner and calling it his "Baby" as being mentally unfit to own.

The man in the video is the poster child for the gun control movement. As a multiple gun owner AND avid gunsportsman AND certified gun trainer AND award winning marksman AND hunter AND gun rights defender I see that guy as nuts. He is more damaging to the movement than helpful.

He is the idiot driving his drag-race ready car too fast in Saturday lunchtime traffic. He is the extra-curricular enthusiast who gives 'roids to High Schoolers. He is the Arts defender who makes a Madonna out of elephant poop. He is the free speech enthusiast who pickets soldiers funerals.

He could have asked a serious question in a responsible manner and aided the entire cause of defending gun rights but instead he went for looking cool and projecting insanity. He only succeeded at the latter.

Irresponsible. Jackass. Turd burgular.

[Teve]

I think Biden was making too much of the guy calling his gun his "baby." Average joes don't - and shouldn't have to - watch their exact words the way politicians do.

We've been talking about democrats sounding elitist... and essentially making fun of somebody for the metaphor he uses for expressing his love and care for a prized posession comes off as awfully snobish.

Thanks NL, you say it so nicely... Me, I'm not so nice :)
I think more precisely he came off as an asshole with no regard for what other people value. Worse is that it's not a question of valued possessions, but valued RIGHTS.

[PWD]

No. I saw a man refer to someone handling a gun in a hideously irresponsible and unsafe manner and calling it his "Baby" as being mentally unfit to own.

The man in the video is the poster child for the gun control movement. As a multiple gun owner AND avid gunsportsman AND certified gun trainer AND award winning marksman AND hunter AND gun rights defender I see that guy as nuts. He is more damaging to the movement than helpful.

He is the idiot driving his drag-race ready car too fast in Saturday lunchtime traffic. He is the extra-curricular enthusiast who gives 'roids to High Schoolers. He is the Arts defender who makes a Madonna out of elephant poop. He is the free speech enthusiast who pickets soldiers funerals.

He could have asked a serious question in a responsible manner and aided the entire cause of defending gun rights but instead he went for looking cool and projecting insanity. He only succeeded at the latter.

Irresponsible. Jackass. Turd burgular.

This. Except I'm not a trainer or winning marksman. The rest, yes. Owner, hunter, rights defender.

The guy in the video is a tool. He suffers from his own grandstanding perhaps, but he's a tool. I'm an average joe gun owner, and to me he seems nothing like one.

[AZRogue]

The guy was not the image that should have been attached to that weapon. Hell, he did more to reinforce stereotypes associated with gun owners than a full page ad in the New York Times would have.

I own a few weapons that would definitely be considered "assault" weapons due to modifications and synthetic stocks and I don't think I'm crazy, though I have called my guns my babies when around friends. I would never have, though, done so in public. You have to be aware of the image you project when you carry a gun. I go out of my way to make sure they're holstered, or in a case, and kept safe and out of sight. The subject is too touchy to do otherwise.

Still, Biden is a tool.