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Name Lips
09-08-2008, 06:36 PM
Try to keep it serious. Yeah, I'd vote for McCain if it turned out Obama was an alien intent on taking over the earth... but that's not likely to happen.

So what could Obama or McCain do to make themselves so appealing - or so unappealing - that you would switch your vote to the guy you currently wouldn't vote for?

I'd like to answer this myself, but I have to do some thinking. It's a tough question.

PWD
09-08-2008, 06:47 PM
If McCain proved himself to be the McCain of eight years ago by shrugging off the ChristianCons and the Bushes and Roves and the other assmongers busily corrupting the soul of the party, made pre-election offers of cabinet positions to democrats, and if at the same time Obama was revealed to be an even bigger political sham than the intelligently skeptical already must cynically believe him to be.

Oh, I'd have to be American, or dead, or mexican. Apparently any of those is good enough to get me a vote. :)

AZRogue
09-08-2008, 07:40 PM
I'm still trying very hard to not make up my mind, but am currently leaning Obama or Barr. Barr I'd like to vote for because I like to give some love to the Libertarians when I can.

As for Obama, if he can convince me with some of his concrete plans for the country, probably fleshed out during the debates, that he's going to do a lot of good without doing too much bad (bad as in my opinion), than I'd switch my vote to him to help get him over the top.

For McCain, it's unlikely I'd vote for him unless he could demonstrate that he has the balls and the power to stand up to the Republican hard liners and actually make crossing party lines a priority. If he can convince me that he'd actually do that, as in HONESTLY do that, not just here and there where it doesn't matter, than I'd vote for him.

I've pretty much accepted that we're going to pay more taxes and the government's going to get bigger. I see no party out there who will actually NOT do those things.

Varaj
09-08-2008, 07:42 PM
I don't have an OTHER guy.:(

PWD
09-08-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't have an OTHER guy.:(

Because you don't have a first guy? Or because you're the only real person around and we're all figments of your imagination dancing for your amusement? :)

Varaj
09-08-2008, 07:50 PM
Because you don't have a first guy? Or because you're the only real person around and we're all figments of your imagination dancing for your amusement? :)

Because I don't have a first guy or I've registered enough times under different names so I can vote for everybody.

Singularity
09-08-2008, 09:01 PM
For me to vote for McCain, he would have to pledge to change the nature of this country from the corporatocracy it is now to the free market society we had before. Or, better yet, bring corporations under government and give us socialism. I could see him potentially doing #1 but it would be a cold day in hell before doing #2.

Or, Obama would have to have some sort of a meltdown. Maybe he shot a guy twenty years ago for snoring too loud, contracted AIDS from a prostitute, and snorts cocaine on the weekends. That would also cost him my vote.

Lmik
09-08-2008, 09:18 PM
The party that I normally wish to win elections - the New Zealand Labour Party (roughly the equivalent of the Democrats) has won the last three elections and has been in power since 1999. In that time they have become steadily more bureuacratic and delved deeper and deeper into social engineering (see my rant in the parents magazine thread and ask me some time about The Department of labour shuting down childrens model train rides for not filling our forms). I despise the opposition as a bunch of lying business loving right wing fear mongerers but think that they will be elected no matter what I do. I can't bring myself to vote for either main party and so will vote for either the green party or the indigenous peoples party.

Dr_Avalanche
09-09-2008, 03:47 AM
If the McCain ticket had been social liberal I would have been inclined to support him instead of Obama. In economic policy they have pros and cons which I think about cancel each other out, but I can't stand the idea of putting yet another bunch of republicans in the supreme court.

Of course, I'm not a voter in American elections, so I don't know why I'm answering.

In Sweden I vote for the Pirate Party. I'd vote for the liberals if they actually were, you know, liberals.

Ink Bleeder
09-09-2008, 10:42 AM
Problem is, even if the Republicans vowed to protect Roe and introduce universal health care, I'd never believe them.