Palin: "So Sambo beat the bitch!"

[Name Lips]

Link (http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/06/1836305-unconfirmed-palin-on-hearing-obama-won-the-democratic-nomination-so-sambo-beat-the-)


Unconfirmed: Palin on Hearing Obama Won The Democratic Nomination: "So Sambo beat the @!$%#!"

“So Sambo beat the @!$%#!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.


And for those of you who, like me, don't get the slur:

"Sambo is a racial term for a person with mixed indigenous and African heritage in the Caribbean, also for a Black, or South Asian person in the United States and the United Kingdom. It is considered a racial slur in the US and UK but not in the Caribbean."

This lady is truly a piece of work.

[Dr. Paragon]

At this rate I wonder if the Reps are hiding her from the press on account of one of them "basement dwelling DnD players" may cast "Detect Allignment"
and find out that she actually is "Evil".

[Harry]

I'm shocked that there are people who don't know the slur! It's right up there on the pop culture list with black faced minstrels, Amos & Andy and the like, except that Sambo is not even ever funny, just offensive.

[Radu]

I must be living in Bizarro World, where people like this have a worrying chance of becoming the most powerful person in the world. Someone, please get me out of here!

[Random Encounter]

Ok, I just read the other thread where folks here asked why people would believe the right-wing lies about "things Kerry supposedly said" or "the Democrats are throwing away flags" without proof.
Then I jump in this thread where an unverifiable source claims that Palin said something offensive and racist in a restaurant months ago and can quote it verbatim.
There's your answer. In a bipartisan America people want to believe bad things about the other side. Conservatives desperately want to confirm their views that all Democrats hate America and dishonor the flag. And Everyone on the left find it so easy to believe that staunch conservatives are all racists and hate mongers.
In this particular case the quote may be accurate, and Palin may be that racist and stupid, but unless it was caught on audio/video tape it shouldn't be in the news. That's poor journalism and stooping to the same level as the douche from FOX news in the other thread.

[Trainz]

Ok, I just read the other thread where folks here asked why people would believe the right-wing lies about "things Kerry supposedly said" or "the Democrats are throwing away flags" without proof.
Then I jump in this thread where an unverifiable source claims that Palin said something offensive and racist in a restaurant months ago and can quote it verbatim.
There's your answer. In a bipartisan America people want to believe bad things about the other side. Conservatives desperately want to confirm their views that all Democrats hate America and dishonor the flag. And Everyone on the left find it so easy to believe that staunch conservatives are all racists and hate mongers.
In this particular case the quote may be accurate, and Palin may be that racist and stupid, but unless it was caught on audio/video tape it shouldn't be in the news. That's poor journalism and stooping to the same level as the douche from FOX news in the other thread.

I agree with you 100%.

It might be true, but unless there's proof or more than 1 witness, it shouldn't be allowed.

[AZRogue]

You guys are right. You can't accept this story unless you accept a host of others from the other side. I have to admit, it's a story people want to believe, though. Probably what makes these things effective.

[Sobek]

You guys are right. You can't accept this story unless you accept a host of others from the other side. I have to admit, it's a story some people want to believe, though. Probably what makes these things effective.
FIFM. I really don't understand the venom people are launching at Palin.

Looking at her critically is good. But, it really seems like there's an extra dose of shit being flung her way.

[PWD]

FIFM. I really don't understand the venom people are launching at Palin.

Looking at her critically is good. But, it really seems like there's an extra dose of shit being flung her way.

It's not *at* Palin, that's the whole point. It's at the party mechanism and hidden puppet masters who hide behind her, refusing to take it like... well like a man (apologies to Palin).

That's american politics, hatred of the other guy first and foremost. Winning at all costs second. Issues third, if that.

[Singularity]

Ok, I just read the other thread where folks here asked why people would believe the right-wing lies about "things Kerry supposedly said" or "the Democrats are throwing away flags" without proof.
Then I jump in this thread where an unverifiable source claims that Palin said something offensive and racist in a restaurant months ago and can quote it verbatim.
There's your answer. In a bipartisan America people want to believe bad things about the other side. Conservatives desperately want to confirm their views that all Democrats hate America and dishonor the flag. And Everyone on the left find it so easy to believe that staunch conservatives are all racists and hate mongers.
In this particular case the quote may be accurate, and Palin may be that racist and stupid, but unless it was caught on audio/video tape it shouldn't be in the news. That's poor journalism and stooping to the same level as the douche from FOX news in the other thread.

This is no worse than the John Kerry Swoftboat bullshit. When dealing with the right wing spin machine, you have to pounce on every weakness. It might be a load of bullshit, but you know they'd do the same thing.

[obryn]

I think this sounds like a ridiculous rumor.

-O

[Sobek]

This is no worse than the John Kerry Swoftboat bullshit. When dealing with the right wing spin machine, you have to pounce on every weakness. It might be a load of bullshit, but you know they'd do the same thing.
Just so you know, that exact same sentiment is what drives a lot of the snark that comes from conservatives (at least myself). The lefties give no quarter, so none can be afforded them.

Which is tiring. That mentality is why I rarely, if ever bother to take politics seriously on the Internet. In the interest of the "Honesty in Politics" idea from that other thread, I'm trying, though.

[AZRogue]

This is no worse than the John Kerry Swoftboat bullshit. When dealing with the right wing spin machine, you have to pounce on every weakness. It might be a load of bullshit, but you know they'd do the same thing.

Everyone does it. But don't start going all Palestine to my Israel, just because both sides have done it for as far back as I can remember doesn't mean we, us, need to believe it. Let the spin machines spin away on the news, since we can't stop them, but we can control what we accept. A little "peer review" with the news stories being floated nowadays can only be a good thing.

[Ink Bleeder]

Then I jump in this thread where an unverifiable source claims that Palin said something offensive and racist in a restaurant months ago and can quote it verbatim.


You find it hard to believe that someone overhearing a truly shocking racial slur could remember it months later? Let me assure you, if I'd overheard such a thing, I would never have forgotten it.

The mentality that if something happened that wasn't caught on videotape, it's nothing more than despicable rumor and "we'll never know the truth" drives me insane. It's the same mentality that got O.J. Simpson off.

[PWD]

The mentality that if something happened that wasn't caught on videotape, it's nothing more than despicable rumor and "we'll never know the truth" drives me insane. It's the same mentality that got O.J. Simpson off.

The mentality that "someone said it so it must be considered true unless verifiably false" is equally stupid, I must say.

Follow the motives, determine credibility, and only then buy in.

[Sobek]

You find it hard to believe that someone overhearing a truly shocking racial slur could remember it months later? Let me assure you, if I'd overheard such a thing, I would never have forgotten it.

The mentality that if something happened that wasn't caught on videotape, it's nothing more than despicable rumor and "we'll never know the truth" drives me insane. It's the same mentality that got O.J. Simpson off.
Agreed. However, there are also too many people looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

Watch for a pattern.

[Random Encounter]

You find it hard to believe that someone overhearing a truly shocking racial slur could remember it months later? Let me assure you, if I'd overheard such a thing, I would never have forgotten it.

The mentality that if something happened that wasn't caught on videotape, it's nothing more than despicable rumor and "we'll never know the truth" drives me insane. It's the same mentality that got O.J. Simpson off.

I'm not saying it didn't happen.
What I'm saying is that it's not news, it's rumor-mongering. If you could even get other employees or customers that were in the restaurant that night to verify, or better yet one of Palin's dinner companions who laughed along with her that night, then you have a story.
Right now all you have is an unnamed source who may hold a grudge against Palin or, looking at things that FOX news jerkoff did, might not even exist.

Certainly no one can prove it's false, but not being able to prove it's true makes this look like a pretty pathetic attack on an already contriversial figure rather than a true reporting of underlying bigotry in a national candidate.

O.J.'s verdict was stupid but it never boiled down to a "he said/she said" scenario.
A better example is everyone automatically believing the Stripper instead of the star Soccer players when she cried "rape" a couple of years ago. People condemned the students without ever seeing the evidence. Evidence which eventually prooved thier innocence. See now how peoples lives can be ruined by the automatic belief in a rumor without further evidence or research?

[Radu]

As if the Catholic Church wasn't enough evidence for that already!

[cnath.rm]

This is no worse than the John Kerry Swoftboat bullshit. When dealing with the right wing spin machine, you have to pounce on every weakness. It might be a load of bullshit, but you know they'd do the same thing.Both sides at this point are so insane with this mentality that it's a wonder that what tiny bit (aside from earmarks and pay raises for themselves) gets done actually gets done.

That said, I still say that when Kerry showed a picture in his commercials showing a whole pile of guys who didn't support him, as opposed to filming with the 1-2 guys in the pic who did, that he opened himself up to at least some of the shit that got flung his way.

As far as I'm concerned, if you are going to mention your war record, you should sign the paper to open it to the public... Kerry wouldn't do it iirr. (not sure if McCain has, but if he hasn't, I sure think it's about time he did.)

[PWD]

That said, I still say that when Kerry showed a picture in his commercials showing a whole pile of guys who didn't support him, as opposed to filming with the 1-2 guys in the pic who did, that he opened himself up to at least some of the shit that got flung his way.

At best that demanded an "I was in the picture with him, but I don't support him".

The swiftboaters can go to hell, in my opinion. I don't like Kerry but god damn that was uncalled for.

[Singularity]

At best that demanded an "I was in the picture with him, but I don't support him".

The swiftboaters can go to hell, in my opinion. I don't like Kerry but god damn that was uncalled for.

I agree on everything but the not liking Kerry part.

I really don't have strong feelings on Kerry one way or another, which might very well be why he ended up losing the election. He always seemed stiff, in the Al Gore sense of the word, and that usually ends up playing pretty poorly with the voters. It isn't a crime for a candidate to show some personality, so long as their personality doesn't overshadow their policy making abilities.

[PWD]

I certainly don't hate him with the fire of a thousand suns or anything, I just don't like him.

And I agree, personality is a good thing for candidates to show. You're electing more than an advisor squad after all, you want to know there's someone inside the suit.

[The Winslow]

I'm shocked that there are people who don't know the slur! It's right up there on the pop culture list with black faced minstrels, Amos & Andy and the like, except that Sambo is not even ever funny, just offensive.
I read a version of Sambo when I was a little kid. From what I remember of the book I had, it wasn't drawn this way, but even if it had been I don't think I would have read it as something saying that Black people are less than other people. As far as little boy me was concerned, it was just a goofy story about a little boy who outsmarts a bunch of bullies (which took some daring as said bullies are tigers!), and gets to eat pancakes at the end.

[there_is_no_bob]

it was just a goofy story about a little boy who outsmarts a bunch of bullies (which took some daring as said bullies are tigers!), and gets to eat pancakes at the end.
Hey, I think I read that!


My vague memories match Winslow's - nothing offensive that I can remember.

[cnath.rm]

At best that demanded an "I was in the picture with him, but I don't support him".

The swiftboaters can go to hell, in my opinion. I don't like Kerry but god damn that was uncalled for.I will agree, though I still think it wouldn't have happened, or at least not been as effective had he not opened the door.

[PWD]

I will agree, though I still think it wouldn't have happened, or at least not been as effective had he not opened the door.

Certainly, whether he intended to or not, he was wrapping himself in the respect of his fellows in the photo, and they had every right to distance themselves from him.

But they proved themselves the worse assholes.

[cnath.rm]

As far as little boy me was concerned, it was just a goofy story about a little boy who outsmarts a bunch of bullies (which took some daring as said bullies are tigers!), and gets to eat pancakes at the end.That's pretty much what I remember as well (aside from the cameo in Jack of Fables) and have to say that any day that includes pancakes should be a good day.

Certainly, whether he intended to or not, he was wrapping himself in the respect of his fellows in the photo, and they had every right to distance themselves from him.

But they proved themselves the worse assholes.Yep, and helped to push politics even further towards it's insanely polarized current state of hell.

[The Theocrat of Poon-Tang]

Link (http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/06/1836305-unconfirmed-palin-on-hearing-obama-won-the-democratic-nomination-so-sambo-beat-the-)




And for those of you who, like me, don't get the slur:



This lady is truly a piece of work.

So now we're taking unconfirmed gossip and using it to vilify this woman?

You know, at first I was wondering whether McCain made the right choice. Oh sure she had me won over because she's the only real conservative in this field of nominees, but like alot of other conservatives I wondered whether she was "electable".

Judging by the way the left has lashed out, I sense not only anger but fear. Their little cakewalk fantasy with Barack Hussein (see how easy it is to play dirty?) Obama is being pissed on by a sexy milf who is smart, has a thing for guns and is very likeable. Definitely proof that McCain chose correctly. He got people like me, who aren't really all that enthralled with him, motivated to vote for him.

Oh, and seeing as we're talking about VP's, I heard a rumor that Joe Biden is a piece of shit plaigarist. Oh, wait a minute, unlike the crap the left is slinging at Sarah Palin, that's actually true.

[Brynja]

I am really not a fan of Sarah Palin's policy ideas, her ideas on what "United" states mean, and her views on what should happen with my body...but....


I wouldnt accept that story at all - it is not cited, it is not sourced and it amounts to "shhhh i will tell you but you gotta promise not to tell"

Silly.

There are plenty of other reasons - valid ones- to dislike her candidacy - this isn't one of them.

[Varaj]

You know, at first I was wondering whether McCain made the right choice. Oh sure she had me won over because she's the only real conservative in this field of nominees, but like alot of other conservatives I wondered whether she was "electable".

When did social conservatives become "real" conservatives?

[obryn]

When did social conservatives become "real" conservatives?
When folks realized that you can get poor people to vote against their interests with silly moral wedge issues.

-O

[cnath.rm]

When folks realized that you can get poor people to vote against their interests with silly moral wedge issues.

-O:D Yep, though it's pretty much the same as when for year after year, social conservatives end up voting for social liberals due to psudo-racial posturing.

[Atropine Mama]

When folks realized that you can get poor people to vote against their interests with silly moral wedge issues.

-O

Right now Barry Goldwater is shedding little Libertarian-shaped tears over the way that he was absolutely fucking right about the Republican party in the '80's.

[AZRogue]

Right now Barry Goldwater is shedding little Libertarian-shaped tears over the way that he was absolutely fucking right about the Republican party in the '80's.

Preach it, sister! From the mountain tops! :)

Barry Goldwater detailed in his wonderful book Conscience of a Conservative the current plight of the Republican party. Promoting fiscal responsibility and prohibiting government control over the way we live our lives were keys of the conservative ideal, and ones that are still honored by some.

[Name Lips]

Promoting fiscal responsibility and prohibiting government control over the way we live our lives were keys of the conservative ideal, and ones that are still honored by some.

Sadly, those aren't the ones running for office.

[cnath.rm]

Sadly, those aren't the ones running for office.or the ones in power within the party.