Canada Grants Refugee Status To Murderer

[Harry]

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/245196

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – A teenage gang member wanted in the slaying of a Nashville market owner has been granted refugee status by a Canadian judge, delaying efforts to have him returned to Tennessee to face charges.

Nasser Muhsin, 16, who is being held in Edmonton, claimed he needed refugee status because he might be hurt or killed by rival gangs if sent back to the United States.

Nashville police suspect Muhsin fired the shot that killed Ebadolla Ghorbani during a November robbery at the Omid Market. Two other suspects are in custody.

A juvenile court arrest warrant charges Muhsin with criminal homicide, especially aggravated robbery and unlawful gun possession.

Nashville police erected "wanted" billboards with Muhsin's photo around the city to try to produce tips on locating him.

Authorities aren't sure how Muhsin crossed into Canada while he was wanted in a homicide. Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron told WSMV-TV that Canadian border authorities are trying to make sure Muhsin stays in custody while officials continue to try to get him returned to the United States.

The refugee status decision has been appealed but won't be heard in a Canadian court until late September, Nashville officials said.

"I've never been to Canada, but if they're going to let some murderer be free, that's messed up," Meysam Ghorbani, the victim's son, told WTVF-TV.

"This one especially because he's the one who shot my father," said the younger Ghorbani, who was at the store during the shooting. ``He's the guy who just looked at my father and pulled the trigger for no reason."

Ebadolla Ghorbani was shot after he struggled to hold the market door closed against two masked males. A security camera recorded the shooting.

[Atticus_of_Amber]

A refugee is a person who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country," says the UN Refugees Convention, which has been adopted as domestic law in most of the signatory countries.

On the information here, the Canadian decision is crazy. Which leads me to suspect that we don't have all the information...

[there_is_no_bob]

owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons [...] membership of a particular social group [...]I guess a gang could be considered a social group...



We've also got a thing about not sending people to places where they might be executed. That might be it. Maybe on account of him being a minor? The judge may be going crazy. That's always possible. Or overworked?

Oh, apparently the UN definition is the only reason for eligibility for refugee status: (http://www.canadavisa.com/canadian-immigration-refugee-protection.html)
Refugee Determination
To be granted asylum in Canada as a refugee, a person must be outside his or her home country and have a well-founded fear of persecution. According to the Geneva Convention, the fear must not only be well-founded, the persecution must also be based on reasons of race, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. However, a less restrictive interpretation of the feared persecution may also lead to refugee status. For example, Canada recognizes that women can be persecuted because of their gender and that the definition of a refugee should be interpreted to also include this form of persecution. A variety of circumstances can make a person a refugee. Some examples can be found here....Though this is stretching it.


This isn't making any sense. A judge doesn't determine refugee claims; it's an immigration thing.



Ah. Found an Edmonton article on the subject. The judge ordered the kid locked up, after the immigration people said he could stay with his uncle and only had to check with immigration twice a week.


Yeah, the immigration guys seem to be cocking this one up but good.
article (http://www.feedsyndicate.com/articles/7008172342)
On Wednesday, the IRB entered an order setting Muhsin free as long as he lives with his uncle in Edmonton and checks in with immigration officials twice each week.

Government officials appealed the IRB decision, and on Friday afternoon, Judge Robert Barnes of the Federal Court of Canada temporarily halted Muhsin's release, calling the IRB's order setting Muhsin free pending extradition to the U.S. "unreasonable."

The government's appeal of the IRB decision is expected to be heard in the fall.

[Atticus_of_Amber]

I guess a gang could be considered a social group...

"Social group" is the bane of any government immigration lawyer's life. What the fuck does it mean? But one thing that is pretty clear from the cases, it doesn't mean membership of a criminal gang. If it did, Australia and Canada would be overflowing with gang members escaping the US.

[Northcott]

On the information here, the Canadian decision is crazy.

That would be option A... and likely the correct one. Our immigration service has been royally fucked up for years, has come under fire from the media repeatedly, been the subject of countless political debates... and still nothing gets done.

About half a decade ago an immigrant in Toronto, who had been living there for four or five years, was a well-known and well-respected member of the community, who volunteered time in the soup kitchens and was basically a model of what we wish our citizens were all like... was deported. In spite of facing potential, legitimate danger back in his home country. Man, talk about rage over injustice -- there was a fit thrown over that, and rightfully so.

Immigration is infamous for fucking up things like that. Deporting families back to Nicuragua, granting asylum to gang members or convicted felons, etc.

[Lisa Nadazdy]

Way to make the streets of my hometown safer, stupid Immigration pricks; lets let a murderer back on the streets. Genius.:gnasher:

[there_is_no_bob]

"Social group" is the bane of any government immigration lawyer's life. What the fuck does it mean? But one thing that is pretty clear from the cases, it doesn't mean membership of a criminal gang. If it did, Australia and Canada would be overflowing with gang members escaping the US.
Yeah, the immigration guys are fucking this one up.


Fortunately, the government is appealing theirits decision!

[Snatch]

Way to make the streets of my hometown safer, stupid Immigration pricks; lets let a murderer back on the streets. Genius.:gnasher:

Just to let everyone know - I'm still ok here. :)

[Keeper of Secrets]

I wasn't clear but is the alleged murderer free to roam Canadian streets while he is visiting? Perhaps Canadians will have their doors locked to their homes now that Michael Moore has exposed that they never used to do it. :rolleyes:

[Northcott]

I wasn't clear but is the alleged murderer free to roam Canadian streets while he is visiting? Perhaps Canadians will have their doors locked to their homes now that Michael Moore has exposed that they never used to do it. :rolleyes:

He almost was, but a sharp-eyed judge put the kibosh on that. The little bugger's in custody while he awaits his hearing.

[Limper]

He can stay with Karla.

[Snatch]

He can stay with Karla.

She's not in Edmonton fortunately.

[Limper]

She's not in Edmonton fortunately.

Send him to her... in a dress as I think that was her prefered prey.

[Northcott]

Send him to her... in a dress as I think that was her prefered prey.

I like the way you think. Arm them both, and perhaps we'll solve two societal ills in one go... though odds are we'll only solve one.

[Snatch]

I like the way you think. Arm them both, and perhaps we'll solve two societal ills in one go... though odds are we'll only solve one.

But if we think of them like race horses, odds are the survivor would be injured and need to be put down.

[Northcott]

This thread is filled with brilliant ideas.

[PWD]

I'm pointing at this thread the next time y'all accuse *me* of being an internet tough guy, just so you know. ;)

[Limper]

I'm pointing at this thread the next time y'all accuse *me* of being an internet tough guy, just so you know. ;)

You're just pissed cause you didn't get to this first.

[PWD]

You're just pissed cause you didn't get to this first.

I'm busy having fun with Old Fart on CM at the moment. Besides, I already knew canadian immigration was fucked up.

[Snatch]

I'm pointing at this thread the next time y'all accuse *me* of being an internet tough guy, just so you know. ;)

I'm only "virtually" tough with a "virtual" gun.