Fotoshop by adobé

[Ancalagon]

http://vimeo.com/34813864


Funny but serious message here.

[Harry]

Women who try to look like that outside of Photoshop tend to attract... men who try to look like that outside of Photoshop. Seriously... do all the people who've written all these articles for the last thirty years about airbrushes and Photoshopped women think that this stuff is one-way? Really?

Look at every male cover model and try to deny the same tricks apply. Look at every male ad in all the female magazines.... Good lord, try walking past a grocery store checkout lane and try to pick out a magazine cover designed to woo men. You won't find one. All this shit is female expectations on females, trying to imagine what men like, using as their subject males the same men they imagine gazing upon them in some bizarre mirror upon mirror upon mirror world.

Then they want to try to make men the guilty party.

All most men want are companions who love them, want to be loved back, and give them some fucking space when they ask for it. If the women don't have major psychoses, disabilities and aberrations like arms where their noses should be or open festering wounds instead of souls, all the better.

Yet women all want bare chested Ashton Kutcher's to come calling, and get pissy when the average Joe's notice and place all the blame on the male when he fails to avert his "gaze".

Bah. humbug. All that shit.

[shiningbrow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlYJ08v26LA&feature=related

[hobbiteer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlYJ08v26LA&feature=related

On the plus side, I didn't have to listen to any of Mirah's singing. Which is a bonus.

And Harry, I'm with you.

[shiningbrow]

Welcome to my world:

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~mquillig/20050131mulvey.pdf

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13582685/Lacan-Jacques-Mirror-Stage

What these articles are implying, in short, is that our very concepts of ourselves are embedded in a culture of vision. Women are utterly complicit in this visual culture of the gaze and its consequent objectification. So Harry is correct, but he ascribes a degree of independent volition to "women" that does not really exist. And, for the record, some women do not find Ashton Kutcher appealing, not even with a bag over his head...

[Radu]

Completely off topic.....

but I have cut packages to that song at work. They've got the same song library we use, it looks like. :lol:

EDIT: This is the song from the OP, not the Maria Carey thing....

[shiningbrow]

One last thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eT3GS3ls0