Which states are our Blue States, which are Purple, and which are Red?

[Edena_of_Neith]

Opinions on this?
It seems some of our states have been shifting around a lot in recent years.

[Edena_of_Neith]

Definitions ...

Deep Red State: Will vote Republican in the Presidential Election.
Deep Blue State: Will vote Democratic in the Presidential Election.

Red State: Likely to vote ...
Blue State: Likely to vote ...

Purple State: Could vote for either Party, might or might not lean one way or another.

[Edena_of_Neith]

As far as I can guess, our Blue States are:

Hawaii
California (deep blue)
Connecticut
Delaware (deep blue)
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
New York State (deep blue)
Oregon
Rhode Island
Vermont (deep blue)
Washington State

Our Purple States are:

Colorado
Iowa
Maine
Michigan
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin

Our Red States are:

Alabama (deep red)
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Kansas (deep red)
Kentucky
Idaho (deep red)
Indiana
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska (deep red)
Nevada
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota (deep red)
Oklahoma (deep red)
South Carolina (deep red)
South Dakota (deep red)
Tennessee
Texas (deep red)
Utah (deep red)
Virginia
West Virginia

Our Democratic and Republican posters, feel free to amend what I posted.
Both sides claim various states are shifting in their direction, that the political winds are blowing their way, as one would expect.

[Hatter]

That looks pretty close to me.

[Aloysius]

Basically, with the exception of Oilxas, States that are economic power-house are blue, while those that depends of federal equalization payments are Red. Go figure.:D

[Hatter]

Texas isn't nearly as red as all that, but then California isn't nearly that blue. Hurray for gerrymandering!

[Brynja]

New York is a deep purple.

NYC is as blue as you get.
NY State veers red. If you got all the northies out to vote NY might go red

[Hatter]

New York is a deep purple.

NYC is as blue as you get.
NY State veers red. If you got all the northies out to vote NY might go red

NYC is like 42% of the state population though right? That's a lot bigger of a difference than the rural/city difference in a lot of states.

[Brynja]

agreed but if you get a critical mass of voter apathy in the 5 boros, mix that with alot of out of staters working and living but who havent bothered to register and couple it with a serious mobilization of points north- it could get dicey.

[Edena_of_Neith]

Well, there are the Propaganda Versions, given by both the Republicans and the Democrats.

In the Republican Propaganda Version:

All the Red States mentioned above, are Deep Red.
Other Red States: Illinois (excluding Chicago), Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin
Purple States: Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York State, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State

In the Democratic Propaganda Version:

All the Blue States mentioned above, are Deep Blue.
Other Blue States: Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Wisconsin
Purple States: Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Indiana, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia

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If you look at the above, there are actually states where the Republicans claim they are Red States, and the Democrats claim they are Blue States, and both stand by their claim.

My home state of Michigan, is one of these states.

[Edena_of_Neith]

Which shows that you cannot pigeonhole Americans, anymore than we could pigeonhole what alignment a character was in Advanced Dungeon and Dragons.

My home state of Michigan has a great many people who are very frustrated with inept and incompetent leadership, and simply want a better government (regardless of whether it is the Democrats, Republicans, or The Party of the Little Green Martians.)

So one election it votes one way, another election another way. Pollsters and pundits can think what they want: reality (and what real people ask for) is more complicated than their simple polls and political one-liners from partisan politicians.

[Edena_of_Neith]

New York is a deep purple.

NYC is as blue as you get.
NY State veers red. If you got all the northies out to vote NY might go red

There is that election tomorrow in the New York State Congressional District representing parts of Queens and Brooklin in New York City.
If the Republicans take that district, I would think New York State had gone Purple, yes. (According to what I've read, Republicans have not held that district - the general area - since Cleveland was President.)

Greater Metropolitan New York, comprising New York City, northern and central New Jersey, lower New York State and Long Island, southwest Connecticut, and a small part of eastern Pennsylvania, has 21 million people.
As there are now around 1 million people per Congressional District, that comes to 21 Congressional Districts.

So, Greater New York has 21 Congressional Districts representing it, and New York City, around 8 Congressional Districts (8 million in the city itself.)

Do you know how many of those are held by Democrats, and how many by Republicans, currently?

[Edena_of_Neith]

(blinks in utter astonishment)

New York 9 went Republican.

It would appear that New York State is, indeed, Deep Purple on the verge of going Red.

(sits down, and eats that cheese sandwich made of moon cheese, because it would appear that the moon really IS made out of green cheese ...)

[Hatter]

(blinks in utter astonishment)

New York 9 went Republican.

It would appear that New York State is, indeed, Deep Purple on the verge of going Red.

(sits down, and eats that cheese sandwich made of moon cheese, because it would appear that the moon really IS made out of green cheese ...)

I encourage you to not make judgements based on special elections, they do not reflect the opinions of the actual voting populace. The media will paint this election as a referendum on Obama, but it's really not a good correlation.

Edit: Also, please note that NY9 is unlikely to exist after redistricting next year.

[Edena_of_Neith]

I encourage you to not make judgements based on special elections, they do not reflect the opinions of the actual voting populace. The media will paint this election as a referendum on Obama, but it's really not a good correlation.

Edit: Also, please note that NY9 is unlikely to exist after redistricting next year.

In all honesty, I didn't believe any Republican could win that seat.
Heck, I didn't believe it, when 50% of the precincts were in, on the AP website.
I was wrong. Then again, I'm wrong on most things. (muses ... wishes he wasn't wrong on so many things ...)

Anyways, that NY 9 race, no need to discuss that further (or if there is, I'll let someone else discuss it, on a different thread.)

At this point, I merely agree with Brynja, that New York State is a Purple State.