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The Winslow
07-26-2011, 04:26 PM
Source (http://lufkindailynews.com/news/local/article_79700610-b30b-11e0-a4e5-001cc4c03286.html)

TL;DR: version: Mentally-retarded Hispanic kicks open the door to his own home. Suspicious neighbor thinks it's a burglar and calls the police. The cops' arrival frightens the dimwit, who seeks shelter in his bathroom. Cops get him anyway, beat him up, and after finding out he's not a burglar but the owner of the place, charge him with resisting arrest. Since the guy doesn't speak English, the judge deems him not a victim and sentences him to one month of jail, adding that without the jury's demand for leniency, it would have been six months instead.

Justice is a beautiful thing. :grey:

A jury on Wednesday found a Lufkin man guilty of resisting arrest in his home after police mistook him for a burglar. A judge then sentenced the man to serve 30 days in jail and pay a $500 fine.

Marco Sauceda, 30, entered Angelina County Court-at-Law No. 2 Judge Derek Flournoy’s courtroom Wednesday morning wearing a tan button-down shirt and navy dress slacks, but by the end of the day found himself in county orange.

Following a one-day trial and four-hour deliberation, a six-person Angelina County jury concluded Sauceda was guilty of resisting arrest on March 15, 2009, while being pepper-sprayed, shot with a pepper ball gun and wrestled to the ground by Lufkin Police officers in his living room, according to testimony.

In closing arguments Wednesday morning, Sauceda’s defense attorney, Ryan Deaton, chronicled how his client was approached by Lufkin police when they entered his home at 111 Finley St. on a report of a black man kicking in the front door, called in by a neighbor. Sauceda, who Deaton described as having the mind of a child, then locked himself in the bathroom and refused to come out despite repeated warnings by the officers on scene.

“A person should feel secure in their own home. No matter black, white, Hispanic, Asian, I don’t care who they are, they should feel secure in their own home,” Deaton said. “The police have no right to come in your house and push you around and beat you up and do the things they did on March, 15, 2009.”

Deaton blamed a language barrier for Sauceda’s failure to respond to police, but prosecutor Gary Taylor attempted to diffuse that notion by comparing the similarities in the English word “police” and Spanish word “policia.”

“You have to look at it through the eyes of Marco Sauceda,” Deaton said. “He doesn’t think like you and I do. He has a child’s mind. He operates on a lower level thinking than you and I do. Number two, he doesn’t speak this language.”

In his closing arguments, Taylor reminded jurors that Sauceda’s behavior throughout the incident led police to believe he was a criminal.

“His behavior was more consistent with a burglar than an innocent person, and that’s what got us here today,” Taylor said. “If you’ve got a language barrier, you find somebody to help accommodate. Is it reasonable that you close the door and lock yourself in your room? I don’t know that it is.

“This whole incident could have been avoided very easily if he would have said, ‘Me llamo Marco. Es mi casa.’”

Before the verdict was delivered, a note from the jury was sent to Flournoy, which he said was “indicative of the verdict.” It read, “We’ve all reached a verdict. To us we feel he has been wronged. Please consider that in his sentencing.”

Neither side presented evidence in the sentencing phase of Sauceda’s Class A misdemeanor conviction. Flournoy asked Deaton for his suggestion in sentencing. Flournoy could have sentenced Saueceda to up to one year in jail and/or up to a $4,000 fine.

“It is our opinion he’s been punished enough, and I think the jury’s note says that,” Deaton said. “I think the pictures (of his injuries) show punishment in this case. I will respect any decision you make.”

Taking a few moments to collect his thoughts, Flournoy then addressed Sauceda directly. The dialogue of the trial was delivered in Spanish to Sauceda via translator Josefina Villanueva. Flournoy told Sauceda that because he did not take the stand in his own defense it was difficult for him to sympathize with his situation.

“I haven’t heard from you and I have no idea why you didn’t speak. That causes me some trouble. I don’t agree with the notion you are a victim in this case,” Flournoy said. “I think your actions put you and the officers in harm’s way. This could have been easily avoided.”

Had it not been for the jury’s note asking for leniency, Flournoy said he would have likely sentenced Sauceda to six months in jail.

Despite the unfavorable criminal outcome for his client, Deaton said he intends to pursue a federal civil lawsuit against the city on Sauceda’s behalf.

“The civil suit will more than likely take place in January or February of next year,” Deaton said. “I don’t know if this will impact the civil suit, but based on the jury’s feelings that he was wronged, I don’t think it will.”

When asked if the possibility of a civil suit was the motivation behind trying the case, County Attorney Ed Jones said the case would have been tried either way.

“We tried the case simply because we really did believe he resisted arrest,” Jones said. “The statute says that you do not have the right to resist the arrest. We were going to try the case no matter what.”

Following sentencing, Sauceda was immediately taken to the Angelina County Jail to begin serving his sentence.

Hatter
07-26-2011, 04:41 PM
In small town Texas he was guilty of being a minority.

Varaj
07-26-2011, 05:05 PM
This part strikes me as interesting.

“I haven’t heard from you and I have no idea why you didn’t speak. That causes me some trouble. I don’t agree with the notion you are a victim in this case,” Flournoy said. “I think your actions put you and the officers in harm’s way. This could have been easily avoided.”


The jury still found the dude guilty of resisting arrest, the seemed to have found that "yes he broke the law but the ass kicking should be enough punishment."

On the surface I think I agree with the jury.

bondetamp
07-26-2011, 05:31 PM
I find it odd that a people that values private ownership so highly that even a minor tax increase sends them into collective cardiac arrest, still has no problems with government representatives entering a private home to beat up a simpleton and then put him in jail for a month for the trouble.

Aloysius
07-26-2011, 05:45 PM
I find it odd that a people that values private ownership so highly that even a minor tax increase sends them into collective cardiac arrest, still has no problems with government representatives entering a private home to beat up a simpleton and then put him in jail for a month for the trouble.

Tax upon a millionaire WASP = bad. Beating the shit of a latino in his home = good.

Hatter
07-26-2011, 07:17 PM
I'm not sure what public interest is served in locking this guy up. Yes he broke the law, but this is why judges have the power to grant suspended sentences. From the article it sounds like the judge was going to throw the book at this guy and 'only' gave him one month because the jury asked him to be lenient.

Varaj
07-26-2011, 07:21 PM
I'm not sure what public interest is served in locking this guy up. Yes he broke the law, but this is why judges have the power to grant suspended sentences. From the article it sounds like the judge was going to throw the book at this guy and 'only' gave him one month because the jury asked him to be lenient.

I concur, I bet judge was up for re-election.

I'm all like soft on crime and think that far too often jail is at best a waste of tax payer's dollars and at worst a training ground for further crime. ;)

Hatter
07-26-2011, 07:33 PM
I was baffled when I moved here and found out judges were elected. That's just weird.

Adriak
07-26-2011, 07:52 PM
I was baffled when I moved here and found out judges were elected. That's just weird.
I don't know about the rest of Colorado, but Jefferson County elects judges as well.

EDIT: Correction, they only elect to retain them. My bad.

Hatter
07-26-2011, 08:08 PM
I don't know about the rest of Colorado, but Jefferson County elects judges as well.

Colorado only votes to retain judges, they are nominated by a judicial commission and appointed by the governor.

Adriak
07-26-2011, 08:15 PM
Colorado only votes to retain judges, they are nominated by a judicial commission and appointed by the governor.
Yeah, I caught myself only after I posted.

Stupid impulsive reply. :o

Edena_of_Neith
07-26-2011, 08:21 PM
Actually, Winslow, this really does bother me, that this happened.

We all know there has never been justice for the common man.
We all know how some judges behave, and some people behave (I stress some, since it is obviously unreasonable to paint everyone with a broad brush ... every state, country, people, have their extremists.)

However, there is an evolving trend here that, frankly, bothers me.

Let's hope this example of justice miscarried, does not become the general trend (much less, the new universal norm.)

cnath.rm
07-26-2011, 08:56 PM
I find it odd that a people that values private ownership so highly that even a minor tax increase sends them into collective cardiac arrest, still has no problems with government representatives entering a private home to beat up a simpleton and then put him in jail for a month for the trouble.It's a good thing that they didn't do that... they entered a private home that they thought was being burgled... they got no information to the contrary until afterward. Should the city/county/etc and the police dept. have fallen all over themselves apologizing after they found out? Hell yeah. However the cops didn't set out to do that when they responded to the call.

Hatter
07-26-2011, 10:29 PM
It's true there's no evidence that the police did anything improper.

Old Fart
07-26-2011, 11:22 PM
In small town Texas he was guilty of being a minority.In the state as a whole, everyone's a minority. The demographic percentage of Latinos in Angelina county is less than 40% of the state as a whole, which is the only reason the "language barrier" part of the argument is credible. If this were, say, El Paso county, I wouldn't believe it for an instant.

Communication difficulties aside, locking oneself in the bathroom is not an action a reasonable man would expect a homeowner to take in this situation; so I can understand why the officers would continue their on-site investigation into a possible crime in progress. They used physical force and chemical agents to apprehend the suspect. To me (a layman who just read the article in the OP) that means one of two things - either the officers are guilty of excessive force, or the suspect is guilty of resisting arrest. It appears the judge and jury concluded the latter.

We all know there has never been justice for the common man.Anybody got alchemist's fire handy?

bondetamp
07-27-2011, 02:33 AM
It's true there's no evidence that the police did anything improper.
I don't know if they beat him up, no. If they did, it wouldn't be the first time the resisting arrest was used to cover it up, but that's not important, merely hyperbole in this case.

This is just idle thoughts, but I'm starting to wonder if resisting arrest should only ever add years to another sentence, instead of being something you can be tried for even if all other charges are dropped. (I think that's also a reasonable way of making hate crime legislation, and possibly also laws on terrorism and treason)

Hatter
07-27-2011, 07:25 AM
This is the law he broke, it's the use of force that got him in trouble:

Sec. 38.03. Resisting Arrest, Search, or Transportation.
(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally prevents or obstructs a person he knows is a peace officer or a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction from effecting an arrest, search, or transportation of the actor or another by using force against the peace officer or another.
(b) It is no defense to prosecution under this section that the arrest or search was unlawful.
(c) Except as provided in Subsection (d), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(d) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the actor uses a deadly weapon to resist the arrest or search.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Acts 1991, 72nd Leg., ch. 277, Sec. 1, 2, eff. Sept. 1, 1991; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.

The Winslow
07-27-2011, 07:43 AM
a person he knows is a peace officer
I think the defense should have played upon this particular part, because it doesn't seem to me the poor guy understood what was happening.

bondetamp
07-27-2011, 08:13 AM
Communication difficulties aside, locking oneself in the bathroom is not an action a reasonable man would expect a homeowner to take in this situation;

Isn't it? If there's a home invasion and you have no way to flee or defend yourself, the one room with a lockable door and few valuables would seem to be a rational choice.

Varaj
07-27-2011, 08:14 AM
I think the defense should have played upon this particular part, because it doesn't seem to me the poor guy understood what was happening.

Article implies the defense did try and the jury didn't buy it with part of the reason that the English word for police is close enough to the Spanish word that when identification was given he should have figured it out.
I don't know how impaired the guys intellect is, but if he was living by himself it weren't that bad.

Aloysius
07-27-2011, 08:39 AM
the English word for police is close enough to the Spanish word that when identification was given he should have figured it out.


In English, probably... But how do you say (and pronounce !) "police" in Texan ? :grey:

Varaj
07-27-2011, 08:45 AM
In English, probably... But how do you say (and pronounce !) "police" in Texan ? :grey:

I think it is "Spicbeater"

Aloysius
08-03-2011, 05:26 PM
So the guy has been somewhat beaten, and he is not happy because he will be sent to prison ? He should know that crossing the path of policemen may entail death penalty. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44005599/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.TjnEe2u-d1Y

Hatter
08-03-2011, 06:30 PM
So the guy has been somewhat beaten, and he is not happy because he will be sent to prison ? He should know that crossing the path of policemen may entail death penalty. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44005599/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.TjnEe2u-d1Y

Only if crossing the path of policemen involves shooting at or stabbing them.

shiningbrow
08-03-2011, 06:33 PM
I find it odd that a people that values private ownership so highly that even a minor tax increase sends them into collective cardiac arrest, still has no problems with government representatives entering a private home to beat up a simpleton and then put him in jail for a month for the trouble.

This.

Aloysius
08-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Only if crossing the path of policemen involves shooting at or stabbing them.

It seems that shouting at them works, too. :grey:

Hatter
08-03-2011, 09:00 PM
It seems that shouting at them works, too. :grey:

Or fleeing in a motor vehicle if your driving endangers the people around you. That will get lethal force in some areas.

AZRogue
08-03-2011, 10:35 PM
Frankly, I'm surprised the judge said what he did regarding the defendant not taking the stand. I thought that was his right under the fifth amendment and the fact that he chose not to testify shouldn't be held against him. Doesn't always work with a jury, but it should with a judge.

One other thing: if he only has the mind of a 4 year old, how is it he lives alone? I don't know any 4 year olds who can keep their own apartment. Did the defense exaggerate his condition? If so, I can see how that would backfire on them.

cyphersmith
08-03-2011, 10:35 PM
It seems that shouting at them works, too. :grey:

When they don't know who you are, and you're in a house with a reported burglary, that might happen. Especially if you actively resist them.